Diary of a Ludington Traffic Counter - The Ludington Torch2024-03-29T10:21:59Zhttp://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/forum/topics/diary-of-a-ludington-traffic-counter?commentId=4689834%3AComment%3A347872&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noWell stump, I questioned coun…tag:ludingtoncitizen.ning.com,2017-08-15:4689834:Comment:3477702017-08-15T04:04:25.766ZAQUAMANhttp://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/profile/AQUAMAN
<p>Well stump, I questioned councilor Krauch 3 times last year about the coming agenda for the next few days and his response was he didn't have time to read it, and seldom does before the mtg.. What does that say about knowing what's coming in the city and your ward? Imho, it says I have better things to do now, and I'll catch up at the mtg.. That isn't showing care and competency at all, it displays the same lazy and inefficient ways for too long being repeated by another new member of the…</p>
<p>Well stump, I questioned councilor Krauch 3 times last year about the coming agenda for the next few days and his response was he didn't have time to read it, and seldom does before the mtg.. What does that say about knowing what's coming in the city and your ward? Imho, it says I have better things to do now, and I'll catch up at the mtg.. That isn't showing care and competency at all, it displays the same lazy and inefficient ways for too long being repeated by another new member of the so-called team. So Shyster Shay continues with this scenario, and pretty much gets his way 99% of the time, without anyone really coming to terms with their duties that sit with him on the exalted elevated stage.</p> I think the road to Abilene d…tag:ludingtoncitizen.ning.com,2017-08-13:4689834:Comment:3477662017-08-13T03:36:44.384Zstumphttp://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/profile/stump
<p>I think the road to Abilene does compare with our city council. Ideas are put forth by Shay and the council just goes along with it without question. I don't think they read their meeting package to even question items that are on the agenda. Just a yeh vote and get over it no matter what anybody else says. All aboard, NOT!!!!!!!</p>
<p>I think the road to Abilene does compare with our city council. Ideas are put forth by Shay and the council just goes along with it without question. I don't think they read their meeting package to even question items that are on the agenda. Just a yeh vote and get over it no matter what anybody else says. All aboard, NOT!!!!!!!</p> City leaders have voiced some…tag:ludingtoncitizen.ning.com,2017-08-13:4689834:Comment:3480892017-08-13T03:09:57.996ZXLFDhttp://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/profile/TheLudingtonCitizen
<p>City leaders have voiced some benefits of the road diet over the years, including but not limited to:</p>
<p>improve the parking situation on the avenue with increased spots and safety,</p>
<p>slow down traffic going through the downtown so they will be more likely to visit the shops,</p>
<p>allow bike lanes,</p>
<p>expand sidewalk dining.</p>
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<p>After conversing with Miller, it was evident that he had discussed the issue with someone knowledgeable of what Ludington wants to do. …</p>
<p>City leaders have voiced some benefits of the road diet over the years, including but not limited to:</p>
<p>improve the parking situation on the avenue with increased spots and safety,</p>
<p>slow down traffic going through the downtown so they will be more likely to visit the shops,</p>
<p>allow bike lanes,</p>
<p>expand sidewalk dining.</p>
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<p>After conversing with Miller, it was evident that he had discussed the issue with someone knowledgeable of what Ludington wants to do. Restriping the avenue will not be expensive, a big expense will be entailed though to synchronize the lights, noting that synchronization will aid only traffic going one way and likely hinder the other way's progress, including pedestrian crossings, and turns. He also mentioned that there has been talk of using Loomis and Court Streets as alternative routes by making them one way and putting speed bumps on them at intervals. </p>
<p>I can't help but think that the current system has its problems, but the proposed system I heard of looks complex, a lot more inefficient, and a lot more stressful to all vehicles. </p>
<p></p> Thanks for introducing the Ab…tag:ludingtoncitizen.ning.com,2017-08-13:4689834:Comment:3480862017-08-13T02:47:03.781ZXLFDhttp://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/profile/TheLudingtonCitizen
<p>Thanks for introducing the Abilene Paradox to me Stump, and thanks for the explanatory video, Willy. I never heard of that before, but there is a similar thing working at Ludington City Hall which often leads to city officials cooperating on many issues. I agree with Willy that there is another element or two added into the equation at city hall, but it generally follows the Abilene paradox template in a lot of situations.</p>
<p>Thanks for introducing the Abilene Paradox to me Stump, and thanks for the explanatory video, Willy. I never heard of that before, but there is a similar thing working at Ludington City Hall which often leads to city officials cooperating on many issues. I agree with Willy that there is another element or two added into the equation at city hall, but it generally follows the Abilene paradox template in a lot of situations.</p> Thanks for the information st…tag:ludingtoncitizen.ning.com,2017-08-12:4689834:Comment:3478722017-08-12T14:34:56.594ZWillyhttp://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/profile/willy
<p>Thanks for the information stump. I had never heard of the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abilene_paradox" target="_blank">Abilene Paradox</a>. After looking up the term on the internet I'm inclined to believe that this Paradox does not fit this situation only because of the history of decision making by Ludington's officials. Most of the time Ludington's leaders decide on courses of action that benefit themselves and their cronies. This self interest, in my opinion, is the driving…</p>
<p>Thanks for the information stump. I had never heard of the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abilene_paradox" target="_blank">Abilene Paradox</a>. After looking up the term on the internet I'm inclined to believe that this Paradox does not fit this situation only because of the history of decision making by Ludington's officials. Most of the time Ludington's leaders decide on courses of action that benefit themselves and their cronies. This self interest, in my opinion, is the driving force behind most of what goes on at City Hall.</p>
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</p> Years ago I was at a seminar…tag:ludingtoncitizen.ning.com,2017-08-12:4689834:Comment:3477632017-08-12T13:52:29.986Zstumphttp://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/profile/stump
<p>Years ago I was at a seminar where the speaker talked about the road to Abilene, [ Abilene paradox ] This might be the situation here. We see it all the time with our city council.</p>
<p>Years ago I was at a seminar where the speaker talked about the road to Abilene, [ Abilene paradox ] This might be the situation here. We see it all the time with our city council.</p> In a recent visit to our neig…tag:ludingtoncitizen.ning.com,2017-08-12:4689834:Comment:3479822017-08-12T13:39:09.535Zstumphttp://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/profile/stump
<p>In a recent visit to our neighboring town of Whitehall to the south of us it looks like they did some street reconstruction recently. It seems they widened the roadway and narrowed the sidewalks. Not sure of that but main street sure looked wider.</p>
<p>In a recent visit to our neighboring town of Whitehall to the south of us it looks like they did some street reconstruction recently. It seems they widened the roadway and narrowed the sidewalks. Not sure of that but main street sure looked wider.</p> Something just doesn't seem r…tag:ludingtoncitizen.ning.com,2017-08-12:4689834:Comment:3479792017-08-12T03:17:39.245ZWillyhttp://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/profile/willy
<p>Something just doesn't seem right regarding this traffic diet situation. Why do people want this lane reduction? Has any City official stated an opinion based on logic because I see no logical reason for it. Maybe a small town like Scottville benefits from fewer lanes in it's main street area but a busy State trunk line such as Ludington's downtown ave needs to have a smooth flow of traffic. By eliminating a lane in both directions the obvious conclusion is a slower movement and more…</p>
<p>Something just doesn't seem right regarding this traffic diet situation. Why do people want this lane reduction? Has any City official stated an opinion based on logic because I see no logical reason for it. Maybe a small town like Scottville benefits from fewer lanes in it's main street area but a busy State trunk line such as Ludington's downtown ave needs to have a smooth flow of traffic. By eliminating a lane in both directions the obvious conclusion is a slower movement and more congestive traffic flow not only because of the fact that vehicles will be squeezed into a smaller area of roadway but people parking next to the curb will add to traffic stoppage. If the reduction occurs there will be no way cars can pass other vehicles pulling in and out of the curb side parking now available. Every time someone tries to back into a parking space a mini traffic jam will ensue. This will be bad enough during the non tourists season but will be a nightmare when the ave. is full of tourists traffic. Then we have the possibility of increased accidents caused by hurried drivers trying to beat the light in order to limit their driving time through town and the accidents caused by people doing their curb parking dances.</p>
<p>Wouldn't it have made more sense to install cameras at each intersection then count the number and types of vehicles by reviewing the recordings in a more calm and relaxed setting at the end of the day. This would eliminate any errors and would provide a permanent storage of data which could be reviewed at any time after the study. </p>
<p>Knowing how these City Hall types operate, I can only conclude that the fishy smell is strong regarding the motives behind the lane reduction idea.</p> Ludington is turning into a s…tag:ludingtoncitizen.ning.com,2017-08-12:4689834:Comment:3482062017-08-12T00:24:00.244ZJohn Doe Jrhttp://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/profile/JohnnotdeadStreeter
<p>Ludington is turning into a sinus infection. Clogged and contaminated. May the congestion choke the streets arteries into a clot. I hope everyone remembers to HONK YOUR HORN when you are stuck in traffic!! Let the world hear you'</p>
<p>Ludington is turning into a sinus infection. Clogged and contaminated. May the congestion choke the streets arteries into a clot. I hope everyone remembers to HONK YOUR HORN when you are stuck in traffic!! Let the world hear you'</p>