Just Say No-- To Roadside Drug Tests - The Ludington Torch2024-03-29T11:14:28Zhttp://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/forum/topics/just-say-no-to-roadside-drug-tests?overrideMobileRedirect=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noGood points Angela and shinbl…tag:ludingtoncitizen.ning.com,2017-11-18:4689834:Comment:3524342017-11-18T15:16:48.884ZWillyhttp://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/profile/willy
<p>Good points Angela and shinblind.</p>
<p>Over 53,000 views for this topic. X, you have a larger circulation than any newspaper within a hundred miles.</p>
<p>Good points Angela and shinblind.</p>
<p>Over 53,000 views for this topic. X, you have a larger circulation than any newspaper within a hundred miles.</p> With the probability that Mi…tag:ludingtoncitizen.ning.com,2017-11-18:4689834:Comment:3522442017-11-18T01:32:51.986Zshinblindhttp://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/profile/shinblind
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<p>With the probability that Michigan will legalize recreational marijuana usage in the next election is the oral cavity swab test nothing more than a money grab by the SOM and attorneys who will have an influx of clients who test positive? </p>
<p>If you refuse to take the swabbing yes you will be fined $200. The law also states that this includes a suspension of your drivers license. You will have 2 weeks to make an appointment and explain to a judge why you refused the test. Good…</p>
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<p>With the probability that Michigan will legalize recreational marijuana usage in the next election is the oral cavity swab test nothing more than a money grab by the SOM and attorneys who will have an influx of clients who test positive? </p>
<p>If you refuse to take the swabbing yes you will be fined $200. The law also states that this includes a suspension of your drivers license. You will have 2 weeks to make an appointment and explain to a judge why you refused the test. Good luck with that without legal council.</p>
<p>Will people then be busted for driving while suspended? It looks that way.</p>
<p>This devise the <span>Alere DDS2 Mobile Test System cost roughly $5,700 not counting the swabs and test strips. Less than 30 suspects refusing the test and the machine will be paid for. Add in any positive results and the payback will happen sooner.</span></p>
<p><span>At that price point will employers also make use of this machine? It definitely opens up a new area of concerns for both employees and unions.</span></p> "[AlFranken] came at me, put…tag:ludingtoncitizen.ning.com,2017-11-17:4689834:Comment:3525152017-11-17T23:04:57.879ZXLFDhttp://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/profile/TheLudingtonCitizen
<p><span>"[AlFranken] came at me, put his hand on the back of my head, mashed his lips against mine and aggressively stuck his tongue in my mouth. <span>I immediately pushed him away with both of my hands against his chest and told him if he ever did that to me again I wouldn’t be so nice about it the next time.</span>"…</span></p>
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<p><span>"[AlFranken] came at me, put his hand on the back of my head, mashed his lips against mine and aggressively stuck his tongue in my mouth. <span>I immediately pushed him away with both of my hands against his chest and told him if he ever did that to me again I wouldn’t be so nice about it the next time.</span>"</span></p>
<p><a href="http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/#.Wg2u3r4ueC8.twitter" target="_blank">http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/#.Wg2u3r4ueC8.twitter</a></p> Link to her story ?tag:ludingtoncitizen.ning.com,2017-11-17:4689834:Comment:3523242017-11-17T18:43:56.488ZAngelahttp://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/profile/Angela
Link to her story ?
Link to her story ? The page hits for this limite…tag:ludingtoncitizen.ning.com,2017-11-17:4689834:Comment:3523162017-11-17T16:40:49.403ZXLFDhttp://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/profile/TheLudingtonCitizen
<p>The page hits for this limited regional website page has went up over 30,000 just since yesterday. On Facebook, the Ludington Pitchfork link has been shared 830 times. It seems to be striking a nerve throughout the state and even beyond. </p>
<p>I want to thank Leeann Tweeden for sharing her story about Senator Al Franken yesterday, who illustrated that having a state agent invade the private confines of your mouth without your consent is an unpleasant experience. </p>
<p>The page hits for this limited regional website page has went up over 30,000 just since yesterday. On Facebook, the Ludington Pitchfork link has been shared 830 times. It seems to be striking a nerve throughout the state and even beyond. </p>
<p>I want to thank Leeann Tweeden for sharing her story about Senator Al Franken yesterday, who illustrated that having a state agent invade the private confines of your mouth without your consent is an unpleasant experience. </p> This thread is getting out on…tag:ludingtoncitizen.ning.com,2017-11-17:4689834:Comment:3524272017-11-17T15:47:50.761ZDavehttp://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/profile/BigDave
<p>This thread is getting out on Facebook some, just saw a friend that is not from the Ludington area that shared it on her news feed... gotta like that!</p>
<p>This thread is getting out on Facebook some, just saw a friend that is not from the Ludington area that shared it on her news feed... gotta like that!</p> This test gives a lot of fals…tag:ludingtoncitizen.ning.com,2017-11-16:4689834:Comment:3523022017-11-16T04:21:31.830ZAngelahttp://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/profile/Angela
<p>This test gives a lot of false positives, it also does not tell the officer how under the influence you are, just that you have an illegal substance in your system. You could have taken cold medicine with codeine in it 2 nights ago and still have it show up in your salvia. Unfortunately, many of these DRE, will find a reason to take you to jail, because they think they are "experts" on being able to tell if you are under the influence even without the salvia test. Many medical conditions…</p>
<p>This test gives a lot of false positives, it also does not tell the officer how under the influence you are, just that you have an illegal substance in your system. You could have taken cold medicine with codeine in it 2 nights ago and still have it show up in your salvia. Unfortunately, many of these DRE, will find a reason to take you to jail, because they think they are "experts" on being able to tell if you are under the influence even without the salvia test. Many medical conditions mimic being intoxicated or under the influence. So until these DRE cops go to medical school, they have no right saying they are "experts" in this, they have no clue.</p>
<p>PS - it doesn't matter if you have a prescription and take your medications as prescribed, you will still get jailed for being under the influence, this is especially true for those who take low dose narcotics for chronic pain or people who have ADHD or ADD and take Adderall or Ritalin. What are these ppl suppose to do? Not work anymore because they cant drive? Ya sure, disability claims will get denied!</p> Not my usual bailiwick to let…tag:ludingtoncitizen.ning.com,2017-11-15:4689834:Comment:3518982017-11-15T17:06:10.945ZXLFDhttp://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/profile/TheLudingtonCitizen
<p>Not my usual bailiwick to let the MSP off the hook, but troopers are not the only ones trained as DREs, some county and local law officers in the five counties also have the training. They definitely can get that training money back in a hurry.</p>
<p>This article has a bit of life on its own, it's been shared quite a lot from our Facebook presence, the Ludington Pitchfork, and has received about 12,000 looks on this page. A quick poll of the thoughts here and on Facebook say 100% of the…</p>
<p>Not my usual bailiwick to let the MSP off the hook, but troopers are not the only ones trained as DREs, some county and local law officers in the five counties also have the training. They definitely can get that training money back in a hurry.</p>
<p>This article has a bit of life on its own, it's been shared quite a lot from our Facebook presence, the Ludington Pitchfork, and has received about 12,000 looks on this page. A quick poll of the thoughts here and on Facebook say 100% of the respondents don't like the concept of being forced to submit to an unreliable test by dint of an officer's whim or face a $200 fine and undoubtedly extra scrutiny. </p>
<p>Please share with the state legislators who thought this was such a great idea without any concerns of the limitations of the test and the ramifications to the citizens of this state. </p> $200 shakedown courtesy of t…tag:ludingtoncitizen.ning.com,2017-11-15:4689834:Comment:3521932017-11-15T04:56:00.102Zshinblindhttp://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/profile/shinblind
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<p>$200 shakedown courtesy of the Michigan State Police.</p>
<p>Will this come with any points on your license?</p>
<p>Especially in St Clair Co., will Canadian residents routinely be stopped? Gotta be some easy pickin's with them not informed of the law eh? If they test positive will they be allowed to travel back to Canada?</p>
<p>Instead of their current logo,will the MSP fly the Jolly Roger's on their vehicles?</p>
<p>Instead of "To Protect and Serve" will their motto now be "Rape,…</p>
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<p>$200 shakedown courtesy of the Michigan State Police.</p>
<p>Will this come with any points on your license?</p>
<p>Especially in St Clair Co., will Canadian residents routinely be stopped? Gotta be some easy pickin's with them not informed of the law eh? If they test positive will they be allowed to travel back to Canada?</p>
<p>Instead of their current logo,will the MSP fly the Jolly Roger's on their vehicles?</p>
<p>Instead of "To Protect and Serve" will their motto now be "Rape, Plunder & Pillage"?</p> I can see this going the way…tag:ludingtoncitizen.ning.com,2017-11-12:4689834:Comment:3519622017-11-12T16:27:40.304Zstumphttp://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/profile/stump
<p>I can see this going the way of the original seat belt law. Well you don't have to wear it ,but, if you get pulled over for some other infraction , YOU will be ticketed for not wearing it. See what it is now. It would seem that in order to take a sample swab they would need a search warrant.</p>
<p>I can see this going the way of the original seat belt law. Well you don't have to wear it ,but, if you get pulled over for some other infraction , YOU will be ticketed for not wearing it. See what it is now. It would seem that in order to take a sample swab they would need a search warrant.</p>