Local Media Chooses Propaganda Over Pitchforks - The Ludington Torch2024-03-28T14:46:42Zhttp://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/forum/topics/local-media-chooses-propaganda-over-pitchforks?commentId=4689834%3AComment%3A487874&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThanks for clarification, X.…tag:ludingtoncitizen.ning.com,2019-09-12:4689834:Comment:4914402019-09-12T01:17:42.866ZDu Wrighthttp://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/profile/dianne
Thanks for clarification, X. That is a more accurate way to say it. That'd be to subtract the figure on the bill that's the 1% fee.
Thanks for clarification, X. That is a more accurate way to say it. That'd be to subtract the figure on the bill that's the 1% fee. Effectively ignore the 1% PTA…tag:ludingtoncitizen.ning.com,2019-09-12:4689834:Comment:4913512019-09-12T01:12:57.265ZXLFDhttp://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/profile/TheLudingtonCitizen
<p>Effectively ignore the 1% PTAF when paying the tax bill, do not pay 1% less than the total, because then you would be in error. </p>
<p>Here's why without using the usual variables that most people cringe at. Let's say your taxes were an even $1000 (we all wish) then the PTAF would be 1% of that or $10 for $1010 total. If you subtracted 1% off at that point, or $10.10, you would be paying $999.90 and the City would be after you for that missing dime. </p>
<p>Attorney Wilson's specious…</p>
<p>Effectively ignore the 1% PTAF when paying the tax bill, do not pay 1% less than the total, because then you would be in error. </p>
<p>Here's why without using the usual variables that most people cringe at. Let's say your taxes were an even $1000 (we all wish) then the PTAF would be 1% of that or $10 for $1010 total. If you subtracted 1% off at that point, or $10.10, you would be paying $999.90 and the City would be after you for that missing dime. </p>
<p>Attorney Wilson's specious arguments make a good reason for looking around for a new city attorney or law firm. Wilson, an elected trustee out at WSCC, should realize that there are political consequences for taking undue liberties with taxpayer funding. It's rarely seen when you're a college board member, but it should be evident that even if only 10% of your supporters hold it against you at election time, that's a twenty point swing for a challenger, maybe more if it becomes the rallying issue for that challenger.</p> I was shocked council over ro…tag:ludingtoncitizen.ning.com,2019-09-11:4689834:Comment:4912052019-09-11T23:19:31.577ZDu Wrighthttp://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/profile/dianne
<p>I was shocked council over rode Wilson, even though he threw some questionable argument out.<br/> <br/> Taxes are still due at the same time. If you haven't paid already, subtract the 1%. If you have paid, you will receive a 1% credit on winter tax bill, is what was said at the meeting.</p>
<p>I was shocked council over rode Wilson, even though he threw some questionable argument out.<br/> <br/> Taxes are still due at the same time. If you haven't paid already, subtract the 1%. If you have paid, you will receive a 1% credit on winter tax bill, is what was said at the meeting.</p> So, does this very seldom act…tag:ludingtoncitizen.ning.com,2019-09-11:4689834:Comment:4909912019-09-11T23:01:10.528ZAQUAMANhttp://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/profile/AQUAMAN
<p>So, does this very seldom act of true justice by the COL officials make for an extended time for property taxes to be due and paid? Or will the COL resend the adjusted taxes due to all locally? Or do locals just adjust the amount of -1% and pay that amount? I'd like to get some factual answers to all these questions now too, thanks. Failing to legitimately introduce and pass the PTAF legally in advance, again required C.A. Wilson to put his warped interpretation on the table, but this time,…</p>
<p>So, does this very seldom act of true justice by the COL officials make for an extended time for property taxes to be due and paid? Or will the COL resend the adjusted taxes due to all locally? Or do locals just adjust the amount of -1% and pay that amount? I'd like to get some factual answers to all these questions now too, thanks. Failing to legitimately introduce and pass the PTAF legally in advance, again required C.A. Wilson to put his warped interpretation on the table, but this time, it was overrode, thankfully.</p>
<p></p> The council did the same thi…tag:ludingtoncitizen.ning.com,2019-09-11:4689834:Comment:4909012019-09-11T20:04:06.385Zshinblindhttp://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/profile/shinblind
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<p>The council did the same thing to Marrison when she was councilor. Shunned her and didn't care for or respect her dissenting opinion. She eventually resigned. Brandy Henderson decided to be a good old girl and join them, letting the citizens finish last. </p>
<p>They have tried to do the same thing to Serna. So far she has shown her mettle and stood fast. But keep in mind that she will be up for reelection soon and she only won by what was it 6 votes. The good old boy councilors…</p>
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<p>The council did the same thing to Marrison when she was councilor. Shunned her and didn't care for or respect her dissenting opinion. She eventually resigned. Brandy Henderson decided to be a good old girl and join them, letting the citizens finish last. </p>
<p>They have tried to do the same thing to Serna. So far she has shown her mettle and stood fast. But keep in mind that she will be up for reelection soon and she only won by what was it 6 votes. The good old boy councilors must be slobbering and frothing over that. </p> Well put, X. I was thinking a…tag:ludingtoncitizen.ning.com,2019-09-10:4689834:Comment:4891662019-09-10T22:46:50.720ZFreedom Seekerhttp://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/profile/FreedomSeeker
Well put, X. I was thinking along those lines, hoping there was another meaning to the "recall" in the haiku. Like a personal moral decision to step aside since she is the visitor bureau now. And what greater conflict of interest for the rest of the population who want someone to represent THEM, the people. Instead we have many activities for the tourists which crowd the residents out of the town we pay taxes for. And between visitors bureau and the DDA working together to increase tourism,…
Well put, X. I was thinking along those lines, hoping there was another meaning to the "recall" in the haiku. Like a personal moral decision to step aside since she is the visitor bureau now. And what greater conflict of interest for the rest of the population who want someone to represent THEM, the people. Instead we have many activities for the tourists which crowd the residents out of the town we pay taxes for. And between visitors bureau and the DDA working together to increase tourism, there is no limit on the amount of activities for downtown tourism. Most people, myself included…tag:ludingtoncitizen.ning.com,2019-09-10:4689834:Comment:4892152019-09-10T22:00:16.693ZXLFDhttp://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/profile/TheLudingtonCitizen
<p>Most people, myself included gave Brandy a lot of credit for transparency by bringing the City's plan to charge parking fees at the beach out into the open for discussion. My outlook on her actions in that period of her political life has evolved in that I think that she didn't want the fees due to it being bad for the overall tourism industry-- a big consideration when you are leading both the convention and visitors bureau and the chamber of commerce. </p>
<p>She saw the…</p>
<p>Most people, myself included gave Brandy a lot of credit for transparency by bringing the City's plan to charge parking fees at the beach out into the open for discussion. My outlook on her actions in that period of her political life has evolved in that I think that she didn't want the fees due to it being bad for the overall tourism industry-- a big consideration when you are leading both the convention and visitors bureau and the chamber of commerce. </p>
<p>She saw the business-as-usual <em>secret squirrel</em> committees trying to make parking fees a given, a <em>fait accompli</em>, by the time it reached council and interceded the best way possible, by shining light on it. Since that time, she has not only shrunk from the field of controversy, she has become part of the problems of secrecy. She was part of the unlawful and secretive DDA citizen's council, she has repeatedly failed to state conflicts of interest in her participation at council and the DDA with the real or perceived benefits that the CVB and chamber receive. </p>
<p>So if you believe Brandy has toned it down since the parking fee admonishment by the old guard of the council, I think you should consider that it may just be that she's effectively in line with that group when it doesn't cramp her real jobs.</p> Thanks for explaining ... I g…tag:ludingtoncitizen.ning.com,2019-09-10:4689834:Comment:4881012019-09-10T11:32:37.012ZFreedom Seekerhttp://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/profile/FreedomSeeker
Thanks for explaining ... I got stuck on the dual meaning of "recall" to start with, as in "a voting procedure" and not "a condition of memory" so then I was really off base. Many dual meaning words make very interesting haiku!
Thanks for explaining ... I got stuck on the dual meaning of "recall" to start with, as in "a voting procedure" and not "a condition of memory" so then I was really off base. Many dual meaning words make very interesting haiku! Thank you for asking.
The ci…tag:ludingtoncitizen.ning.com,2019-09-10:4689834:Comment:4878742019-09-10T09:09:13.292Zshinblindhttp://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/profile/shinblind
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<p>Thank you for asking.</p>
<p>The city manager should remember</p>
<p>that councilor Brandy</p>
<p>started off to shake things up and got put in her place by her fellow councilors.</p>
<p>from TS ELiot's line,''This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.''</p>
<p>Any other connotation implied should be considered intentional.</p>
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<p>Thank you for asking.</p>
<p>The city manager should remember</p>
<p>that councilor Brandy</p>
<p>started off to shake things up and got put in her place by her fellow councilors.</p>
<p>from TS ELiot's line,''This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.''</p>
<p>Any other connotation implied should be considered intentional.</p> Well thanks, X, for all your…tag:ludingtoncitizen.ning.com,2019-09-10:4689834:Comment:4872452019-09-10T03:34:08.179ZDu Wrighthttp://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/profile/dianne
Well thanks, X, for all your efforts and research for a more open and just government, the way it should be. Let's hope the former end-of meeting play got shredded so fine that it can't ever be reenacted
Well thanks, X, for all your efforts and research for a more open and just government, the way it should be. Let's hope the former end-of meeting play got shredded so fine that it can't ever be reenacted