Ludington City Council Meeting January 11, 2021: Sparks and Recreation - The Ludington Torch2024-03-28T15:43:36Zhttp://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/forum/topics/ludington-city-council-meeting-january-11-2021-sparks-and-recreat?commentId=4689834%3AComment%3A1309102&feed=yes&xn_auth=noGood points FS and LLtag:ludingtoncitizen.ning.com,2021-01-18:4689834:Comment:13096442021-01-18T23:09:57.235ZWillyhttp://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/profile/willy
<p>Good points FS and LL</p>
<p>Good points FS and LL</p> It's hard to say thanks to yo…tag:ludingtoncitizen.ning.com,2021-01-18:4689834:Comment:13089552021-01-18T00:25:05.811ZFreedom Seekerhttp://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/profile/FreedomSeeker
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">It's hard to say thanks to your "Amen", LL, but I appreciate your understanding the pain. It's all too sad a state of having lived it for too long a time in Ludington. I was really shocked at the suppression, the censorship and ridicule upon the citizens by the City. </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">A quote has been used a few times last week to summarize what's been going on with Trump. I had not heard it before, but I guess it comes…</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">It's hard to say thanks to your "Amen", LL, but I appreciate your understanding the pain. It's all too sad a state of having lived it for too long a time in Ludington. I was really shocked at the suppression, the censorship and ridicule upon the citizens by the City. </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">A quote has been used a few times last week to summarize what's been going on with Trump. I had not heard it before, but I guess it comes from George R.R. Martin, author of "Game of Thrones" ... "When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say." That, imo, epitomizes the way our city council, manager and past mayor has operated, (continued sometimes even now), and they had/have each other at six o'clock (military term meaning "having each other's backs"). "We must all speak the same thing mentality" and lie and deny if necessary. </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">The "lie and deny" aspect, I give one example, remembering the "we have no lead goosenecks" in our water supply systems, but X uncovered quite a few when part of Fourth Ward got new plumbing on Sixth Street. Still no real discussion or apology to the people of Ludington about lead goosenecks. This is a city that wants to bury their heads in fun and glamor and deny infrastructure needs.</span></p> The trouble is, until the tax…tag:ludingtoncitizen.ning.com,2021-01-17:4689834:Comment:13091572021-01-17T22:33:01.628ZFreedom Seekerhttp://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/profile/FreedomSeeker
The trouble is, until the taxpayers make their voices heard, there will probably be little change and this blog is just a place to whine about the problems, and the city moles to figure out the strength of the mass. It seems Ludington has acted for years very much like the DNC (Democratic party) that has recently rigged the voting (sound familiar to Ludington?), suppressed truth ( locally years of violating the OMA, not noticing committee meeting times or minutes to keep people in the dark),…
The trouble is, until the taxpayers make their voices heard, there will probably be little change and this blog is just a place to whine about the problems, and the city moles to figure out the strength of the mass. It seems Ludington has acted for years very much like the DNC (Democratic party) that has recently rigged the voting (sound familiar to Ludington?), suppressed truth ( locally years of violating the OMA, not noticing committee meeting times or minutes to keep people in the dark), censoring free speech (lying about and ridicule of XLFD--like saying there are no gooseneck lead pipes. But all of a sudden we are evaluating where they are by an expensive outside company and looking for money to fix the problem). So many other things X has brought up--has been supressed and censored and ganged up on like a big bully band of those afraid to face the truth.<br />
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The overbearing, secret-squirrel groupthink has intimated most anyone from speaking up. 250 hits on this blog in just a couple of days, and the almost 800 people who have signed into the Torch should start making their voices heard or the censorship, intimidation and the single-minded power hungry will remain focused on downtown to the neglect of the whole community. I hope the continuing water rate and tax hikes finally stir the voices, seeing how much is mismanaged and blown on downtown projects like the West End under water and Legacy Park the Third, and employee raises while most people are suffering with loss of income and work during Covid and having to pay more to supplement the City of Ludington. Mitch has been the one with t…tag:ludingtoncitizen.ning.com,2021-01-17:4689834:Comment:13090492021-01-17T20:52:01.294ZFreedom Seekerhttp://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/profile/FreedomSeeker
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Mitch has been the one with the most compassion for the taxpayer, that I've seen in our government (mayor or councilor) in our recent regime since we lost our days of small town respect. Mitch listens and wants input from the taxpayer to make a resilient community and I think would like to change things, but until the warmed-up soup of the years, is changed, I agree Willy, Mitch can't cross his eyes the wrong way or he'll …</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Mitch has been the one with the most compassion for the taxpayer, that I've seen in our government (mayor or councilor) in our recent regime since we lost our days of small town respect. Mitch listens and wants input from the taxpayer to make a resilient community and I think would like to change things, but until the warmed-up soup of the years, is changed, I agree Willy, Mitch can't cross his eyes the wrong way or he'll </span><span style="font-size: 12pt;">lose favor with the groupthink. With Henderson back in a position to force his ideas around, we may go back to carved out log sewers and never get rid of the lead goosenecks and patches on top of patched roads, and expend on gold carved bricks next for another renovation of the Town Rectangle (James Street Plaza) so they can cater to the tourist's beer parties under wooden arches and remember Native ancestors while warming their fingers on the taxpayer sponsored gas firepit. </span></p> The problem is that Mitch doe…tag:ludingtoncitizen.ning.com,2021-01-17:4689834:Comment:13088682021-01-17T18:48:24.006ZWillyhttp://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/profile/willy
<p>The problem is that Mitch does not work for the voters. He works for the City Council. His loyalty lies with whomever is controlling the political soup du jour and that would be, as far as I can tell, the old guard which includes Henderson and his cronies along with the downtown crowd who are all supported by the LDN. If Mitch so much as crosses his eyes the wrong way he knows he's toast. This is why a City Manager is a bad system for the taxpaying citizens. I understand why a City Manager…</p>
<p>The problem is that Mitch does not work for the voters. He works for the City Council. His loyalty lies with whomever is controlling the political soup du jour and that would be, as far as I can tell, the old guard which includes Henderson and his cronies along with the downtown crowd who are all supported by the LDN. If Mitch so much as crosses his eyes the wrong way he knows he's toast. This is why a City Manager is a bad system for the taxpaying citizens. I understand why a City Manager sounds like a reasonable idea but it does not help the citizens maintain a Democracy. Say for instance that the 1st ward voters are unhappy with the CM and want him gone, the only way they can empower themselves is thru the ballot box and vote out their Councilor. But removing one Councilor does not get rid of the CM. That can only be done by the entire Council.</p>
<p></p> Great analysis and psychoanal…tag:ludingtoncitizen.ning.com,2021-01-17:4689834:Comment:13088512021-01-17T16:39:11.832ZXLFDhttp://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/profile/TheLudingtonCitizen
<p>Great analysis and psychoanalysis, Lake Lady. Foster needs to make more courageous decisions in the future to cement any sort of good legacy for himself, part of this would include vaccinating the tired old blood in the system that prevents meaningful change for the better from taking place. That part would include blocking Spam before it brings down the system. </p>
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<p>Great analysis and psychoanalysis, Lake Lady. Foster needs to make more courageous decisions in the future to cement any sort of good legacy for himself, part of this would include vaccinating the tired old blood in the system that prevents meaningful change for the better from taking place. That part would include blocking Spam before it brings down the system. </p>
<p> </p> As far as the Fourteenth Amen…tag:ludingtoncitizen.ning.com,2021-01-17:4689834:Comment:13085352021-01-17T01:08:32.996ZXLFDhttp://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/profile/TheLudingtonCitizen
<p>As far as the Fourteenth Amendment is concerned, if they allow other members of the public into this public facility but arbitrarily exclude me and others based on some illegal stratification of their own design, they have some very real problems beyond their frequent OMA violations. </p>
<p>Every time they submit plans, grants, agreements, and applications, there seems to be some issue involved with process that makes it look unprofessional and unworthy of a caring and competent group of…</p>
<p>As far as the Fourteenth Amendment is concerned, if they allow other members of the public into this public facility but arbitrarily exclude me and others based on some illegal stratification of their own design, they have some very real problems beyond their frequent OMA violations. </p>
<p>Every time they submit plans, grants, agreements, and applications, there seems to be some issue involved with process that makes it look unprofessional and unworthy of a caring and competent group of public servants. I don't like to point fingers at Mitch Foster, but he's got to crack down to get better results from his crew.</p> I am not psychoanalytically q…tag:ludingtoncitizen.ning.com,2021-01-17:4689834:Comment:13084572021-01-17T00:57:54.238ZXLFDhttp://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/profile/TheLudingtonCitizen
<p>I am not psychoanalytically qualified to gauge why Heather signs her letter that way, but the initials indicate the genesis of her name over time. Back when she was new to Ludington in <a href="https://www.shorelinemedia.net/ludington_daily_news/archives/ludington-dda-eyes-projects/article_a06c580d-f194-5500-b299-7064ae915351.html" rel="noopener" target="_blank">2007</a> she went with the last name Loney, in…</p>
<p>I am not psychoanalytically qualified to gauge why Heather signs her letter that way, but the initials indicate the genesis of her name over time. Back when she was new to Ludington in <a href="https://www.shorelinemedia.net/ludington_daily_news/archives/ludington-dda-eyes-projects/article_a06c580d-f194-5500-b299-7064ae915351.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">2007</a> she went with the last name Loney, in <a href="https://michigancompletestreets.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/2009-dan-burden-audit-registration-annoucement.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener">2009</a> she was using Venzke-Loney, in <a href="https://www.shorelinemedia.net/ludington_daily_news/archives/santa-parade-and-small-business-saturday-this-weekend/article_79a78f90-a101-5529-8770-d68479c5e8ea.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">2012</a> she was using Venzke-Tykoski, in <a href="http://www.masoncountypress.com/2013/04/29/classic-car-show-and-back-to-the-fifties-event-in-ludington/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">2013</a> she was going by Venzke, and after that she was mostly just using Tykoski. I thus surmise that the L-V Tykoski surname harkens to synthesizing and abbreviating Loney and Venzke into her last name. </p>
<p>Ironically, the <a href="https://www.google.com/search?biw=1366&bih=657&sxsrf=ALeKk00MkfdeSRXM0f9O0L84mYNikVAKeA%3A1610844536972&ei=eIkDYKbzOoSttQbvjYCgAQ&q=%22heather+loney+venzke+tykoski%22+ludington&oq=%22heather+loney+venzke+tykoski%22+ludington&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQDFCnMlifSWDYVGgBcAB4AIABdIgBswWSAQM0LjOYAQCgAQGqAQdnd3Mtd2l6wAEB&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwimj6jD36HuAhWEVs0KHe8GABQQ4dUDCA0" target="_blank" rel="noopener">only time</a> somebody on the web has referred to her as Heather Loney Venzke Tykoski has been me at the Ludington Torch in the past.</p>
<p>The lack of any meaningful proofreading or editing of her work remains a mystery to most from the private sector who know their career would be in jeopardy if they made such glaring mistakes in the course of their work, but remember: she works for the government, her work product doesn't have to be that good because her peers do not expect much in the first place.</p> There's verity in your commen…tag:ludingtoncitizen.ning.com,2021-01-16:4689834:Comment:13077802021-01-16T00:17:40.389ZFreedom Seekerhttp://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/profile/FreedomSeeker
There's verity in your comment whether it is laziness or incompetence that makes for a Recreation Plan with many mistakes, and does anyone in the city or council really even care? It looks like the Recreation Plan was slapped together at the last minute from a copy of the last report. And that's why they don't like you, X--for pointing out their shortcomings. Maybe Heather is in the wrong (job) as detail and proofreading doesn't seem to be a forte, time and again. Give them a raise.<br />
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There's verity in your comment whether it is laziness or incompetence that makes for a Recreation Plan with many mistakes, and does anyone in the city or council really even care? It looks like the Recreation Plan was slapped together at the last minute from a copy of the last report. And that's why they don't like you, X--for pointing out their shortcomings. Maybe Heather is in the wrong (job) as detail and proofreading doesn't seem to be a forte, time and again. Give them a raise.<br />
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As far as the city creating a tresspass order on you and not Harbor Front Condo owners to have access to the clubhouse and swimming pool, maybe that is a grandfathered deal from the previous legalese, but it seems like a messy inequitable situation. Thanks, X for keeping track o…tag:ludingtoncitizen.ning.com,2021-01-15:4689834:Comment:13080142021-01-15T23:15:14.562ZWillyhttp://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/profile/willy
<p>Thanks, X for keeping track of this group of seemingly ignorant people. Who is responsible for correcting Heather's mistakes and if they are not corrected how can this information be accepted and put into the record. Almost every electronic gadget used for typing has some kind of spell checker, so there is no excuse for these kinds of mistakes. How can anyone take these people seriously. It's hard to believe they are responsible for running the City. Speaking of lifeguards, the video below…</p>
<p>Thanks, X for keeping track of this group of seemingly ignorant people. Who is responsible for correcting Heather's mistakes and if they are not corrected how can this information be accepted and put into the record. Almost every electronic gadget used for typing has some kind of spell checker, so there is no excuse for these kinds of mistakes. How can anyone take these people seriously. It's hard to believe they are responsible for running the City. Speaking of lifeguards, the video below has some bearing on that situation.</p>
<p>Do you know why Heather signs her letter Heather L-V Tykoski.</p>
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