Backyard burger and wiener roasts targeted by EPA - The Ludington Torch2024-03-28T14:00:36Zhttps://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/forum/topics/backyard-burger-and-wiener-roasts-targeted-by-epa?commentId=4689834%3AComment%3A291372&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noYou know the most retarded th…tag:ludingtoncitizen.ning.com,2015-03-27:4689834:Comment:2913722015-03-27T01:42:08.284ZGuidothesemipsuedocaptitalistpighttps://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/profile/RickRawlings
<p>You know the most retarded thing about the mentality required to come up with the idea in the first example?? "inserting a slotted and corrugated tray" to keep grease from flaming on an outdoor grill?? the costs and extra pollution involved with the "green products" company that would contract to build this "green device??? The extra paperwork and bureaucracy also causing pollution to enforce the usage of said device??? This is another example of a solution waiting for a viable problem to…</p>
<p>You know the most retarded thing about the mentality required to come up with the idea in the first example?? "inserting a slotted and corrugated tray" to keep grease from flaming on an outdoor grill?? the costs and extra pollution involved with the "green products" company that would contract to build this "green device??? The extra paperwork and bureaucracy also causing pollution to enforce the usage of said device??? This is another example of a solution waiting for a viable problem to worry about!!! </p> Told a few others about this…tag:ludingtoncitizen.ning.com,2015-03-21:4689834:Comment:2894292015-03-21T03:17:16.838ZAQUAMANhttps://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/profile/AQUAMAN
<p>Told a few others about this too since posted, and they all are laughing and shaking their heads. I suppose the end-result would be that BBQ mfrs. would be required to install these stupidities, and the public would pay for it added to the new unit's costs. Maybe some government's relative has a model/prototype to start building these contraptions too. Thanks for posting Dave.</p>
<p>Told a few others about this too since posted, and they all are laughing and shaking their heads. I suppose the end-result would be that BBQ mfrs. would be required to install these stupidities, and the public would pay for it added to the new unit's costs. Maybe some government's relative has a model/prototype to start building these contraptions too. Thanks for posting Dave.</p> Let it be noted that both of…tag:ludingtoncitizen.ning.com,2015-03-18:4689834:Comment:2882682015-03-18T13:33:50.746ZXLFDhttps://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/profile/TheLudingtonCitizen
<p>Let it be noted that both of our EPA articles feature the word "sustainability" in their research, and that the aim of each study is to assert control over people doing 'normal' activity. Sustainability and resiliency dictate that all citizen units conform to the rules whether the rules make sense or not. If you don't, enjoy our new and improved police and detention units</p>
<p>Being that I (and many others) typically take baths or use the hot tub when I stay at hotels, this last study is…</p>
<p>Let it be noted that both of our EPA articles feature the word "sustainability" in their research, and that the aim of each study is to assert control over people doing 'normal' activity. Sustainability and resiliency dictate that all citizen units conform to the rules whether the rules make sense or not. If you don't, enjoy our new and improved police and detention units</p>
<p>Being that I (and many others) typically take baths or use the hot tub when I stay at hotels, this last study is just puerile, but even if one takes showers at hotels, I think the only thing that would get people to take shorter baths is to offer a discount on their bill. But as the length of your shower seems a more personal/private issue they would probably be offended when the bellhop knows they were in and out in two minutes. </p>
<p></p> Dumb, dumb, dumb. Between the…tag:ludingtoncitizen.ning.com,2015-03-18:4689834:Comment:2886022015-03-18T13:24:46.037ZWillyhttps://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/profile/willy
<p>Dumb, dumb, dumb. Between the give away social programs and wasteful studies and regulations, taxpayers are paying through the nose for all sorts of idiotic progressive ideas and agendas. Campfires will be next. The EPA is out of control and should be abolished along with the Department of Education, The Department of Energy and a number of other oppressive and wasteful agencies. But of course this type of wasteful spending on dumb ideas is not limited to Washington. Ludington has it's own…</p>
<p>Dumb, dumb, dumb. Between the give away social programs and wasteful studies and regulations, taxpayers are paying through the nose for all sorts of idiotic progressive ideas and agendas. Campfires will be next. The EPA is out of control and should be abolished along with the Department of Education, The Department of Energy and a number of other oppressive and wasteful agencies. But of course this type of wasteful spending on dumb ideas is not limited to Washington. Ludington has it's own "Washington" ideas such as the Ludington Ave. west end project.</p>
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</p> And if the BBQ story wasn't d…tag:ludingtoncitizen.ning.com,2015-03-18:4689834:Comment:2878872015-03-18T05:46:36.036ZDavehttps://ludingtoncitizen.ning.com/profile/BigDave
<p><strong>And if the BBQ story wasn't dumb enough for you, there is always this one for ya........</strong></p>
<h2 class="entry-title" style="color: #fc3803;">EPA Wants to Monitor How Long Hotel Guests Spend in the Shower</h2>
<p><span class="sep">BY:</span> <span class="author vcard"><a class="url fn n" href="http://freebeacon.com/author/elizabeth-harrington/" rel="author" title="View all posts by Elizabeth Harrington">Elizabeth Harrington</a></span> <br></br>March 17, 2015 5:00…</p>
<p><strong>And if the BBQ story wasn't dumb enough for you, there is always this one for ya........</strong></p>
<h2 class="entry-title" style="color: #fc3803;">EPA Wants to Monitor How Long Hotel Guests Spend in the Shower</h2>
<p><span class="sep">BY:</span> <span class="author vcard"><a class="url fn n" href="http://freebeacon.com/author/elizabeth-harrington/" title="View all posts by Elizabeth Harrington" rel="author">Elizabeth Harrington</a></span> <br/>March 17, 2015 5:00 am</p>
<p><em>The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) wants hotels to monitor how much time its guests spend in the shower.</em></p>
<p><em>The agency is spending $15,000 to create a wireless system that will track how much water a hotel guest uses to get them to “modify their behavior.”</em></p>
<p><em>“Hotels consume a significant amount of water in the U.S. and around the world,” an EPA <a href="http://cfpub.epa.gov/ncer_abstracts/index.cfm/fuseaction/display.abstractDetail/abstract/10274/report/0" target="_blank">grant</a> to the University of Tulsa reads. “Most hotels do not monitor individual guest water usage and as a result, millions of gallons of potable water are wasted every year by hotel guests.”</em></p>
<p><em>“The proposed work aims to develop a novel low cost wireless device for monitoring water use from hotel guest room showers,” it said. “This device will be designed to fit most new and existing hotel shower fixtures and will wirelessly transmit hotel guest water usage data to a central hotel accounting system.”</em></p>
<p><em>The funding is going toward creating a prototype and market analysis for the device. The goal of the project is to change the behavior of Americans when they stay at hotels.</em></p>
<p><em>“This technology will provide hotel guests with the ability to monitor their daily water online or using a smartphone app and will assist hotel guest in modifying their behavior to help conserve water,” the grant said.</em></p>
<p><em>The project was filed under “Water conservation,” “Urban water planning,” and “Sustainable water management.”</em></p>
<p><em>The EPA also has a <a href="http://www.epa.gov/watersense/docs/ws_h2otelchallenge_flier_508.pdf" target="_blank">WaterSense program</a> that challenges hotels to track their water use and upgrade their restrooms with low-flow toilets and showerheads.</em></p>
<p><em>The program also <a href="http://www.epa.gov/watersense/commercial/docs/factsheets/hotels_fact_sheet_508.pdf" target="_blank">encourages</a> “linen and towel reuse programs” in guest rooms.</em></p>
<p><em>The EPA is <a href="http://www.epa.gov/watersense/docs/ws_shower_better_learning_resource_508.pdf" target="_blank">concerned</a> that the average shower, which lasts just eight minutes, uses 18 gallons of water, and has asked Americans to reduce their shower length by at least one minute.</em></p>
<p><em>Tyler W. Johannes, Ph.D., an associate professor in the University of Tulsa’s School of Chemical Engineering who is working on the project, told the Washington Free Beacon that the researchers hope to see the technology “adopted by all major hotels and used across the country.”</em></p>
<p><em>He said the device seeks to get hotel guests to limit their showers to seven minutes as a start.</em></p>
<p><em>Johannes and his team assumed the average hotel shower lasts 8.2 minutes, using 17.2 gallons of water per guest per shower.</em></p>
<p><em>“Initially our device/app seeks to get hotel guests to reduce their water use by 10 percent or to reduce their showers by about one minute,” he said.</em></p>
<p><em>Johannes provided a link to <a href="http://www.home-water-works.org/indoor-use/showers" target="_blank">Home Water Works</a>, which recommends taking a five minute shower to reduce water use.</em></p>
<p><em>The website, which is a project of the Alliance for Water Efficiency, also suggests watering plants with discarded cold water from showers that take a long time to heat up, and taking “navy showers.”</em></p>
<p><em>“The method requires three steps: 1) turn on water to rinse body and hair; 2) turn off water while shampooing hair and washing body with soap and washcloth; 3) resume water flow and rinse off all shampoo and soap,” the group said. “Using this technique, the total duration of water flow can easily be reduced to 5 minutes or less.”</em></p>
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<p><em>Following publication of this story, EPA deputy press secretary Laura Allen, said the “EPA is not monitoring how much time hotel guests spend in the shower.”</em></p>
<p><em><span style="color: #222222;">“Let us be very clear, EPA is not monitoring how much time hotel guests spend in the shower,” Allen said. “As part of the </span><span style="color: #222222;">People, Prosperity and the Planet</span><span style="color: #222222;"> (P3), a student design competition for sustainability, students at the University of Tulsa are conducting research to </span><span style="color: #222222;" lang="EN" xml:lang="EN">develop a novel low-cost wireless device for monitoring water use from hotel guest room showers. </span><span style="color: #222222;">The marketplace, not EPA, will decide if there is a demand for this type of technology. </span><span style="color: #151515;">It’s ultimately up to hotels to use technology like the monitors being developed at the University of Tulsa. </span><span style="color: #222222;">EPA is encouraging creativity with water conservation efforts.”</span></em></p>
<p><span style="color: #222222;"><a href="http://freebeacon.com/issues/epa-wants-to-monitor-how-long-hotel-guests-spend-in-the-shower/" target="_blank">http://freebeacon.com/issues/epa-wants-to-monitor-how-long-hotel-guests-spend-in-the-shower/</a></span></p>