I just assume you all know about the strong local controversy going on right now. The PM Charter Township recently received a letter demanding our Pere Marquette memorial monument be torn down, or face legal action. Letter was sent by Michigan Assoc. Civil Rights Activists. A Muskegon strongly atheist visitor to that site fishing was insulted by the religious overtones, and reported it. Rights of Constitutional vs. Religion is the beef of no government public property shall display, same as nativity scene as of recent years. What do you all think?

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Comment by Willy on December 19, 2017 at 10:46pm

Thanks for the info. Aquaman

Comment by AQUAMAN on December 19, 2017 at 10:43pm

Hey Willy, what's been going on now since recently is that Mike Wadel Construction Co. of Lud. is moving that Westerly to a new foundation, with remodeling too, for $75K. This was told to me via phone by Supvsr. Keson of the PMT last week. It is NOT being demolished per the recent complaints of the MACRA. At least not yet, or before a court case later.

Comment by Willy on December 19, 2017 at 10:36pm

I was out taking photos of PM lake today 12-19 and when I got back to my computer to process them I noticed one of the images showed the cross at Father Marquette's Monument. It appears it is being dismantled. I won't be able to verify that because I have to leave town early tomorrow. So if anybody gets a chance I would appreciate it if you could check on the crosses status. Below is the image. I also noticed a TV channel truck in the boat launch parking lot.

Comment by Willy on December 17, 2017 at 9:38am

Thanks Aquaman for posting this information. I would not have known about it if not for this forum because I no longer read the local press.

Comment by AQUAMAN on December 17, 2017 at 9:18am

The MCP and LDN both have extensive articles on this matter from yesterday, Dec. 15th, as more info. is surfacing about the entire fiasco.

Comment by Willy on December 17, 2017 at 9:17am

Here's the Facebook link to MACRA the organization trying to eliminate the cross

Comment by AQUAMAN on December 17, 2017 at 9:13am

And youtube has numerous videos of this man and woman whom are wreaking havoc in Hawaii, and now West Michigan. It's Mitch Kahle and Holly Huber, both strong atheists, and violent types for civil rights activity. Facebook forums like Vanished Ludington, and Concerned Locals Ludington also have many posts. Thank you Willy for the link that illustrates the case here in more depth.

Comment by Willy on December 17, 2017 at 8:51am

Here is a link to the PM memorial Facebook page.

Comment by Willy on December 17, 2017 at 8:44am

In reading one of the articles about the monument and Pere Marquette's death, it seems that the original marker for his grave was a cross that was placed there by his companions so what exists now is basically the same thing that existed before America was Constitutionally founded.

Comment by XLFD on December 16, 2017 at 11:45pm

On Thursday December 28 you can make your opinion known at the PM Twp Hall at the corner of PM Hwy and Iris Road.  I recently noted that you can generally tell when a law is bad by looking at how the title of the law paints it as being good.  It often holds true for so-called civil liberties and civil rights organizations trying to make themselves relevant by creating controversies over something like this.  Has any local ever looked at this before this came up and thought of it in any other way than a fitting monument honoring a famous Jesuit priest/explorer/missionary who reportedly died there?

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