On 10/1/15 around 11:30pm a man was arrested for not giving his name when a Longview, Washington police officer responded to his residence for a noise complaint. After he was taken away in cuffs literally less than one minute later with his front door unsecured, his neighbor Benjamin Michael Frostad enters the apartment twice; stealing a gaming headset, Nike Air Jordans, propane torch, watch, wallet and a cell phone. Thankfully he was caught on livestream and those folks called the Police to inform them of the burglary and now he is in Jail on felony charges. The property was returned to the man and he is currently fighting for his erroneous charges to be dismissed.
5:57 -The thief makes his first appearance.
8:05 -Arrested.
10:30 - 11:58 -Robbed he comes in twice in this time.
28:40 -Cops finally secure my home.
11:58 - 28:40 -video is dead meaning nothing recorded but my wall and door lol
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I watched this again and the cop was way out of line. He should have told the guy what was required then left. He insulted the tenant and acted like an idiot. This officer needs to be suspended until he is properly trained. I couldn't get the video above to work and the "share" button on youtube has been disabled so I'm supplying the link to the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yi_6e7fZVU&feature=player_embe...
It was neither meant as a compliment or a criticism, just as an observation that the Aquaman I know would get a little ruffled from a young whelp officer telling him what the law is, when you know otherwise. And albeit your encounter is likely to have come to a different and better resolution due to your innate courtesy, I believe your fate may have also came closer to what happened with the big guy if the officer continued with his intentions and you wanted to learn him the law.
Frankly my dear, I really don't give a damn. This big guy certainly doesn't look like he's living at the Ritz Carlton, he's in the projects ghetto if you ask me. I doubt he can afford all this financial loss, let alone maybe his job for missing work. Yup, if I was 35 years younger and was drunk as a skunk, I might do this. Otherwise, nope! But thanks for the compliment anyhow, if that's what it is?
Frankly, Aquaman, I think you would have handled it similarly to the big guy here, but I think you would have likely shut the door at some point after telling the officer to watch his feet. This guy was in the midst of live streaming the event so he wouldn't have to worry about a "you said, Blue said" contradiction later on since he would have five dozen eye and ear witnesses plus an unbiased recording.
Earnestly, it may wind up costing the big guy some money in the short term, but he has an excellent case against the ignorant, poorly trained cop later on should he choose to file for the blatant and recorded violation of his rights, and receive a windfall for his inconvenience.
And clearly, when you get above the financial aspect, to the high ideals of an American not having to endure police actions like this, it is "really worth it". Too many innocent people get their rights infringed by police treating them like jail inmates.
I agree Willy, but. Ever see the adv. for being "dead right"? An old adv. for driving and yielding to oncoming traffic, irregardless if you have the right of way. Some careless driver could kill you if he runs a red light, and you see him coming, and continue on because you have the right of way. Also, what's the price for being right here? You're going to jail, have to bail out, call and hire attorney, pay fines and costs in court, not to mention you might miss work and lose your job. End result, you lose $2500 plus all the rest of the hassle. Is it really worth it? In this petty incident of disturbing the peace? With all due respect, it would NOT be worth it to me at least, thanks. Sometimes you just have to bow to the situation you are faced with, and humble yourself imho.
The man may have been arrogant but he was right and the officer should have known this and left. Instead the officer violated the man's rights and forced the issue to the extreme. This is why the police are being highlighted for bad behavior. The officer's actions show disrespect for the citizens he works for. If the officer can't take this type of confrontation without throwing his authoritative weight around then he should find other employment.
I still say show some courtesy and respect to the errant and maybe pushy officer, in the end. If you can't do that, call your attorney, and not be so proactive in asserting your knowledge of the law. He's accused of playing music too loud, turn it off in front of the officer, and leave it off. Maybe he'll go away if you keep obeying, and being non-assertive. It's common sense that any officer being talked to for so long about such a minor incident, is going to finally get annoyed, and retaliate with an arrest, be it ever so strange and maybe illegal in the end. The "big guy" has a nice picture of Bob Marley smoking a huge joint on this entry wall, wth? You would NEVER get this chance of an out with LPD here. Sometimes, even if we're right, the best course of action is just to be calm, and cooperative, not combative and sassy. Don't feel sorry for this big guy, he's a duffus!
The big guy wasn't always the most courteous throughout those seven minutes, and at first impression, the officer appears as if he was courteous and polite during this time.
But if you condense the totality of those seven minutes you get this (chronologically): the officer who came to his apartment on a complaint, claims to have the power to check his ID but cannot articulate a crime, the officer claims the big guy is being detained without signifying a crime, the officer claimed the big guy could not close his door and stands in the doorway the whole time, the officer wouldn't leave after the big guy said "goodnight" (it was after midnight) and noted the noise warning would be heeded, the officer (he who is standing on the threshold claiming a crime has been committed) accused the big guy of being confrontational after just asserting his rights not to show ID, he then belittles the big guys lifestyle for awhile, he then enters the apartment when the big guy looks at his viewer totals while telling the man to "stay over here" repeatedly, the officer says he will not push the issue-- then does less than two minutes later. After all this the officer claims he is in the right before making a statement that the neighbor thief can take pictures from the door he is not allowing the big guy to shut, he then enters the apartment absent a warrant and absent an articulated crime and pushes the big guy out and arrests him. Lastly, after arresting the dude for nothing, he fails to secure the big guy's stuff, when some crazy neighbor is lurking around, and after the big guy complains he was taking pictures and intimidating him.
When looked at, it makes the big guy informing the police officer about the law, the police's authority, and his own rights not look discourteous, but bluntly telling the officer like it is.
But that's why I like this video and posted it, because it is not a blatant representation of police misconduct like you see every day on the web, but a more subtle example that has several levels.
This guy had about 7 minutes to be polite and courteous to the LE Officer, he didn't. I can't real feel sorry for him now, except the fact he got robbed too now. Two wrongs, imho.
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