read this...... all mighty Behr has spoken!

[Angela]

So this was my comment to Behr on him deleting selected posts of mine:

seriously? why do you feel that need to keep deleting my comments back to you? Are you so scared, do you want all your followers to think that you are superior to me and everyone else that has something to say back to you that you don't agree with. The big ass thind was so out of line because eveyone knows you out-weigh me by at least 170 lbs. so I know you must be self-consious about your weight - but really? get over yourself because you really arent much of anything..........................


And his response back:

Seriously? Please read the rules here - threats to another are not allowed - swearing is kept to a minimum - you've already gone past your qouta. As far as me being afraid of you - NO - you do not frighten me in the least - Easy for you to come in here and attack members when you don't have the guts to say it to their faces - but I am not afraid of you lil lady.
I am not bothered by my weight, infact I enjoy it, I love the skin I am in - believe me it doesn't bug me - hell I date people who appreciate my size. I run this site - if you don't like it go to the torch. I'd have no problem telling that to you in person :) I should hope I am bigger than you, though sounds like you been feasting on the donuts yourself.

I haven't deleted any of your comments directly to me - ONLY the ones in the forum where you threatened myself and other members. I can see why you got banned from LT - keep it up and it will happen to you here too - You are nothing special.

Only people I've had problems with online was Quido (Richard Rawlings) and Aqua - who both threatened a member's life here - I gave both a chance - so if you don't like the rules get the fuck out before I throw you out - otherwise get along with the rest of us :)


And mine right back at him:

Maybe you need to look at your rules to - because the "threat" you so say I stated is not, I dare anyone of you on here to say anything you have said about me to my face! How is that a threat?, did I say I would do something if you did? I think not. I just don't think you or anyone else on here is man enough to say it to my face, you hide behind your little life running this web site - there is a real world out there, how about you enter it?
Get off your ass and do something, all you people over here do is talk and no action - I find it quite amusing though because all the comments you deleted were ones that were the truth, but you or your little followers cannot handle the truth. You might wanna watch out cuz your head is about to get bigger that your ass with all this self righteous shit about running this site - you are so big & bad! hahahahah NOT!! you are a coward just like the LDN, Shoreline Media & all those others that like to try to control everything to make themselves look better, when in fact they are just weak!!!

[AQUAMAN]

That thing with me over der, was an unprovoked libelous slander upon my person/occupation by another poster, Tuebor, during a debate over anti-global warming research. Heck, I really didn't even pay much attention to that thread until several days into it, when it got hot under the collar. Then, new research came out that debunked gw in it's entirety, with alot of genuine new research that people like Gore, the sponsor, and others wanted silenced and withdrawn. When several posters wanted clarity and tried to debate the gw supporters, the host and his henchmen came after the rest of us with fangs out. The only thing I asked for was an immediate retraction and apology, and that in essence, with a few profanities in the heat of the moment, not personal threats or such, got me banned. Actually, I was relieved to get away from that forum, it felt muddy from the very start, and just got worse as time wore on. Big deal. I'm long past it now. Btw, I thought BW's avatar was over the top about a year ago when I first saw it too, but, I didn't say anything, figuring he had some reasons of value, but, I really kinda doubt it now.

[Max]

That was my thread Aqua. Actually, that thread was the catalyst for that site blowing up, and you, Dave, and I leaving. I thought I was close to being banned several times. Behr had admitted to not hearing about or reading about the global warming scandal, but was able to say that the emails were fake and the global warming science was absolute. Not too unlike one of our elected officials who said they had no knowledge of the matter but could say the police acted "stupidly".

I could not see where Aqua threatened anyone. In that thread is also where Behr started talking about making his site a liberal one and getting rid of the "conservatives" that were causing trouble. That is when Dave left and shortly after, I left.

Another interesting note, is that when I first joined that site, my very first post was deleted by Behr because I had disagreed with him, and I also got a private message where he threatened to ban me because he didn't think I "fit in". We had several heated exchanges and I was surprised then that I wasn't banned after just that first post.

I have nothing personal against Behr or anyone on that site or any site for that matter. I truly believe that a persons views or beliefs should not be reason for enmity. Behr can run his site any way he wants to. At the same time though, I think the record has to be set straight.

[AQUAMAN]

And set the record straight, to me anyhow, you have indeed Max. Cause, people who want to bury their heads/brains in opinions and tainted evidence, are no more likely to want to be informed and smart than a LOG! I guess that's why some have referred to others as "loggerheads". I cited a man, Charlton Heston, as being pro civil rights, pro NRA, anti-gw, a great actor and great man too, and got shot down dead for it. Google CH and see what you think. Too bad too, cause I met that host in person, he is totally out of character now, missing his meds? compared to that meeting last summer. Back then he was a cool cat, good sense of humor, down to earth, generous, and kind, for a first meeting, that lasted about 3 hours with 3 other members. Any other legitimate posters/members still at the other forum, with any self-respect, for free speech, should also consider withdrawal to the TORCH, where freedom of speech, is not, and I hope never will, be censored, and libeled. Hypocricy is not a form of discipline nor compliment to one's own self. JMO

[Dave]

Ah yes, the global warming thread... that was fun... until it disappeared of course. Ended in the typical way that most global warming supporters would prefer since in their mind, there is no other evidence, just theirs.

There were a few times I thought I might get banned there... Behr commented on a few occasions that I was on thin ice. A few times I was trying but he didn't pull the trigger so to speak. Ah well... it is his site and he can indeed run it however he wants... even if it means running it into the ground :-P I think in the end he's gonna wish we were there still to liven things up.. wouldn't be such a yawner then :-P

[AQUAMAN]

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn, ugh.................rolls eyes...............back to snoring............