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Comment by XLFD on May 11, 2015 at 8:25pm

Brady was guilty of going to Michigan rather than Michigan State, but way back then UM had the better football program.  Good point about ball handling, Willy.  After most every play an official or two touches the game football to place it 'down'.

Your use of the phrase 'much to do about nothing' brings to mind that you haven't blessed us lately with one of your Holman quote memes. 

Comment by Willy on May 11, 2015 at 5:49pm

I was not aware of his stats during the game. Thanks for that info X. If the balls were checked before the game then it would have been obvious to the refs that they had been deflated as soon as they were used. The refs handle the ball every down so why wasn't it caught as soon as the balls were deflated? Maybe it was the refs who took the air out of them? I think this entire situation is much to do about nothing. What's so silly about it is that the players are continually cheating thru the entire game. They hold onto players jerseys, block illegally when the ref isn't watching, kick, bite, hit and commit a myriad of other illegal actions to try an get an advantage. If the players were not cheating, there would be no need for refs. And if the investigation was so thorough why doesn't it say that Brady is unequivocally guilty instead of saying he was sort of, maybe, possibly, could be, probably is guilty. 

Comment by XLFD on May 11, 2015 at 4:36pm

These are the stats behind deflategate:  Brady gained no evident competitive advantage from the use of the deflated balls in the Patriots' 45-7 win over the Colts.

The investigators note in their report, that they were not asked to investigate or evaluate the competitive impact of the deflated balls. They nevertheless add that, in the first half, when the balls were under-inflated, Brady completed barely half of his passes (11/21) for one touchdown. In the second half, when the balls were re-inflated, Brady completed over 85 percent of his passes (12/14) for two touchdowns. 

There has been no finding that Brady broke the rules, ordered that the rules be broken, helped to plan the bizarrely executed deed, or rewarded the rules violation after the fact.  Would this be cause for conviction in any fair court, Aquaman? 

Comment by AQUAMAN on May 11, 2015 at 12:30pm

The refs. and 2 ball checkers did check the balls before the game, let's all get our facts straight now. It's the time between checking the balls, and the time the game actually started is when the balls were tampered with by those NE employees hired to do this. All in all, athletes have a responsibility to be honest, play fair, and be good sports. The fact remains that after an exhausted investigation, improprieties were observed, and witnesses have testified to it under oath. Further, Brady hasn't made any formal statement to contradict those harsh findings. So, what we have is a strong case that will be going forward to penalize the offenders. If Brady does take this to some court, he's going to make this event even more sensationalized, and possibly make things even worse for himself, and his team.

Comment by XLFD on May 11, 2015 at 12:08pm

Good points, Willy, the league has not made a very strong case, which often leads good people to forming reasonable doubts of guilt without proof-positive evidence against him.  Some of the animus against Tom Brady seems to be driven more due to his success both on and off the field.

Comment by Willy on May 11, 2015 at 6:45am

This will end up in court if they fine him or bench him. I'm not saying he's guilty or innocent, I'm saying let's see the proof of his guilt. All the league has now are allegations, not proof, that he was involved. Anything can be alleged against anyone so the league should stop using the words "probable" and "generally" and just say he's guilty of violating the rules then prove it. Don't forget that the league itself is guilty of complicity when they failed to check the balls prior to and during the the game. The refs must handle the ball after each play so why were the balls allowed to be used if they were so grossly under inflated? Did the refs check the other teams balls to see if they were also partially deflated? { that last statement doesn't print well] My guess is that unless Brady comes out and admits to violating the rules then this case is going nowhere.

Comment by AQUAMAN on May 11, 2015 at 2:52am

This is the second time that QB Tom Brady has been called, for all intents and purposes, a cheat and a liar. Last time, as the video shows, he waited a while, then staunchly denied it. This time the investigation made lists of times, dates, witnesses on tape, sworn testimony and signed affidavits, and more. This time Brady has been mute. Okay then, so what are we all supposed to believe, the "lone gunman theory of Oswald", or the truth, predicated on the EVIDENCE? There is no court Willy, no phony fixed judge, no Warren Commission, no strange deaths or missing persons yet, just the court of public opinion, and Commissioner Goodell.

Comment by Willy on May 10, 2015 at 11:08pm

Funny video

Comment by Willy on May 10, 2015 at 11:08pm

I wouldn't exactly say that the investigation was conclusive that Brody was involved. The findings say that "It is more probable than not that New England Patriots personnel participated in violations of the Playing Rules and were involved in a deliberate effort to circumvent the rules,"and that "Based on the evidence, it also is our view that it is more probable than not that Tom Brady … was at least generally aware of the inappropriate activities of McNally and Jastremski involving the release of air from Patriots game balls,". I've never heard of any court that would convict someone on someone's opinion regarding a situation that stated those involved "probably" did something or someone was "generally aware" of a situation. If the league is going to level fines or suspensions then they need more conclusive evidence.

Comment by AQUAMAN on May 10, 2015 at 9:42pm

Booo Brady, Belichek, and NE Patriots, cheaters! When the investigation finally came out last week, it was undeniable that Brady knew the balls were deflated to enhance his game. Hope he gets a big fine and suspension for about half the season this fall.

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