X, as long as I’ve been here and watched you call Shay a “perjurer” without a flinch, I’ve never delved into you being one too. (That was your business) You committed perjury when you listed your voting address at your parent’s house, while actually living on Dowland. Those papers are signed under penalty of perjury. You stated on here that you never physically lived there, but to register to vote in that precinct YOU MUST RESIDE THERE stated Under penalty of perjury. The city must not have caught it and I didn’t say anything because it was YOUR business. Statute of limitations should have passed by now. If I was part of the City or County as I have been accused of by Aqueerman, I surely would have contacted Spanolia to review this long ago.
Did you ever vote in the wrong precinct? That’s a crime too.




Reply by XLFD 2 hours ago

Still you claimed "You committed perjury when you listed your voting address at your parent’s house, while actually living on Dowland. Those papers are signed under penalty of perjury." 

I considered my only 'static' residence to be at my parent's address, I would go there daily.  The Dowland address was my work address where I managed the six apartments and yet spent the majority of my time.  There was no willful deceit on my part, and no reason why I would even care at that time about which ward I was part of.  I considered that my only truly fixed address.

Reply by XLFD 3 hours ago

There is no flinch in calling John Shay a perjuror, because he is.  He swore in a court affidavit under penalty of perjury that the eleven records he gave to me in response to my FOIA lawsuit were the records I had sought in my FOIA lawsuit, knowing full well that many of them were not compliant (the extraneous records were to assist his legal defense), and full well that many that were compliant were left out-- almost twenty records with his signature on them and well known to him according to DDA records showing him at the meetings these things were decided. 

As for what you wish to claim is my perjury, I will tell you what I've said before, I registered in 1998 to vote; at that time, and even now for most intents and purposes, my mailing address and the address on my driver's license was my parent's address in the sixth ward.  Michigan law states that the same address must be used for voter registration and driver's license purpose. 

So even if I wanted to register at the Dowland residence, which was used for apartments then, and more importantly where I had no actual 'apartment' at the time I initially registered, and several times thereafter, I would have had a conundrum, and would have been lying if I had said I was living at Dowland, even though I mostly slept there each night. 


Permalink Reply by XLFD on February 29, 2012 at 1:28pm

Larry, please show me any document that I have posted that said I live in the Sixth Ward.  For someone who said in another thread that: 

"If my child were a minor and did something in school that is determined to be legal then you have no right to dig your little claws into our lives"
"if it were one of my children, I would be very concerned if XLFD or his assistant were using FOIA's to dig into my family's personal concerns."
"If that were my child I might become personally concerned about you and your assistant trying to dig into my child's behavior."
"I would become personally concerned about you or your assistant trying to dig into one of my child's behavior. I think you would too if it were your child."
"I would be very concerned as a parent of that student if XLFD or his assistant were trying to dig too deep in my child's behavior or our family's private affairs"


And asked inquisitively in that same thread about whether I had been a teacher or was still teaching, you are beginning to seriously creep me out, and not just with your inconsistency. 


Reply by XLFD on March 3, 2012 at 10:52pm

That address is not my residence; more of a past (and sometimes present) mailing address that the county must have had on file.  I had sent PA Spaniola an E-mail, and the PA doesn't like that form of communication, and sent me a letter to where I used to be registered.  I had to re-register at the place I have physically lived at this whole millenium, 137 E Dowland Street, to be a candidate in the Third Ward. 

Kudos to you, Dale, for finding the document Larry spoke of in the archives.  It does make him a little less creepy.  But also just remember that a mailing address can differ from a street address.  I had my mail delivered to and originally registered at the Pine address, when there had been some problems with lost and misdirected mail at Dowland.



Permalink Reply by XLFD on March 3, 2012 at 11:47pm

RobbyK, Dale, and your brother Larry,

I appreciate your due diligence in coming on here and being concerned about my registration, but not about the disenfranchisement performed by the City leaders.  Great priorities you have. 

The fact is that I have lived physically at my current Dowland address since 1994, initially registered at my mailing address in Ludington town in 1998 and changed that at the beginning of 2011 to make sure I qualified for the office of Third Ward Councilor.  The City of Ludington and most members of the LFD can vouch for me that the Dowland Street address has been my physical and primary mailing address since 2001. 

I must submit that three members of the City Council, the City Manager, City Clerk, and Mayor all interviewed me for the Third Ward Councilor seat in April 2011.  Councilor Castonia was the first, and none too politely, to point out my registration address was in error, a fact I corrected after the meeting, but amazingly I still didn't get the job, LOL.

Permalink Reply by XLFD on March 4, 2012 at 10:46pm


How many times do I have to tell you.  That was not and never has been my residence, it has been a mailing address.  The letter of trespass and the WSP never says I have the right to petition John Shay for entrance.  I have done it in the past, but it has been ignored the last three or four times.  I take that as him denying that right. 

And why would anyone need permission to get John Shay's permission to enter the City Hall to vote?  Bring up a valid point, please.


SO which one is it? “I considered my only 'static' residence to be at my parent's address”                        OR

“The fact is that I have lived physically at my current Dowland address since 1994" ???? 

I can provide the rest of the permalinks if you like. Interesting how you can file legal papers all the way up to the Michigan Court of Appeals but are incapable of filling out the Michigan Voters Registration Card properly.

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I've got to hand it to you Melinda, you got me laughing on that picture. I'm just wondering how you got a photo of my X-wives being together when they won't even talk to each other. I guess they were right when they said I didn't understand them. You know, if you granted me the honor of being my third wife there could be 3 little piggies in that photo.


I have never posted any document that said I live in the Sixth Ward, I have never said I have my domicile in the sixth ward, just that it was a static residence.  So "please show me any document that I have posted that said I live in the Sixth Ward", as I asked your fake persona before.

Or drop the issue for lack of an argument-- and pass the bacon.

XLFD you stated "So "please show me any document that I have posted that said I live in the Sixth Ward", as I asked your fake persona before."

"just that it was a static residence" versus "I considered my only 'static' residence to be at my parent's address"

Blacks Law Dictionary,

What is STATIC?

1. General. Featured by lack of activity, movement, change or progress

Law Dictionary: What is STATIC? definition of STATIC (Black's Law Dictionary)


Living or dwelling in a certain place permanently or for a considerable length of time. The place where a man makes his home, or where he dwells permanently or for an extended period of time.

Law Dictionary: What is RESIDENCE? definition of RESIDENCE (Black's Law Dictionary)

adding "static" to residence only reinforces that you RESIDED there with less change.

What is RESIDE?

To live somewhere such as a town or state.

Law Dictionary: What is RESIDE? definition of RESIDE (Black's Law Dictionary)

Saying that your parents house in the sixth ward was your only "static residence" is saying YOU LIVED THERE.

A post on the Ludington Torch is by no means a document; your interpretation of my meaning of 'static residence' is your own. 

Beyond that, and other points expressed here by me and others that seem to evade your ken, it would only possibly  be a germane topic if I had done anything that was ward-specific in Ludington, or if I knowingly submitted a false affidavit with my voter registration, which I repeat, I did not do. 

Did I reside in the Third ward primarily and be registered to vote in the sixth ward where a large portion of my mail still goes and where I spend even more time nowadays to care for my parents?  Yes, because that's where my Voter Registration Card said to go; the polling place is just five blocks from my Dowland address.   


An instrument on which is recorded, by means of letters, figures, or marks, matter which may be evidentially used. In this sense the term “document” applies to writings; to words printed, lithographed, or photographed; to seals, plates, or stones on which inscriptions are cut or engraved ; to photographs and pictures; tomaps aud plans. The inscription may be on stone or gems, or on wood, as well as on paper or parchment.

Law Dictionary: What is DOCUMENT? definition of DOCUMENT (Black's Law Dictionary)

can be on stone,LOL

Mel, an "instrument", as used in your "legal" definition of document is  'a formal or legal document in writing, such as a contract, deed, will, bond, or lease'.  A website post written as a comment/reply does not qualify as a document in the legal sense or in the normal sense (an official paper that gives information about something or that is used as proof of something).

Please, quit interpreting more into my words than I'm actually saying.


A written document; a formal or legal document in writing, such as a contract, deed, will, bond, or lease. State v. Phillips, 157 Ind. 4S1, 62 N. E. 12; Cardenas v. Miller, 108 Cal. 250, 39 Pac. 783, 49 Am. St Rep. 84; Benson v. McMahon, 127 U. S. 457, 8 Sup. Ct 1240, 32 L. Ed. 234; Abbott T. Campbell, 60 Neb. 371, 95 N. W. 592. In the law of evidence. Anything which may be presented as evidence to the senses of the adjudicating tribunal. The term “instruments of evidence” includes not merely documents, but witnesses and living things which may be presented for inspection. 1 Whart Ev.

Law Dictionary: What is INSTRUMENT? definition of INSTRUMENT (Black's Law Dictionary)

These permalinks can be presented as evidence. Only using parts of the definition.

Maybe she is rich with skills like that??

The Rainbow motif is fitting.

Its OK Willy, with what your Aunts done to you, I don't blame you. Counseling might help you.

I noticed Melinda address my Military voting rights act. But not the new Liberal based Motor voter Act enabiling anyone even those living under a bridge to vote in the town they live under the bridge in.


The point here is less the act exists, but the intent of the act is such that we don't get into "got ya ill sue" situations with persons like Melinda seems to want to present in this thread because she has a personal vendetta with X. Its amazing to me when liberal minded people are the only people who vote for people who generate the rules like the motor voter act then try to hold people accountable as if the act they voted for didn't exist.

ADDRESSING CONFIRMATION NOTICES: While the NVRA requires that confirmation mailings be sent to registrants by forwardable mail, it does not specify the address which must be used. ref: Michigan Motor Voter Act.

Game, Set,Match, go troll upon more fertile ground I'd say.

Elvis will now leave the building!!!

Why would I readdress that? It states to use the nearest crossroads to your bridge. Seriously, if you change bridges, chances are you gotta change crossroads. Kinda like so your in the right district or ward?? You know, so you don't gather up your backpack/sleeping bag and head to the wrong ward to vote.


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