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http://www.upnorthlive.com/news/story.aspx?id=657333#.Tlwm6V0hVBk
Never been a big Fieger cause fan but the marina was aware of this issue and chasing kayakers out in June. Maybe a good lawsuit would help express the need for lifeguards at Ludington beaches.
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Permalink Reply by Lisa O'Brien on
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It's apples to oranges. The guy was swimming in a area that prohibited swimming - it was tragic but it was avoidable. It makes me sick that the parents are trying to gain monetarily from the death of their child.
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Apples to oranges? The marina was maintaining a known dangerous situation, much like Stearns Beach. Perhaps the young man was swimming where prohibited but should the penalty be electrocution? And the kayaker just shooed away? With a long boating background, I have observed children/adults swimming and diving from docks around the state. And yes, I will admit to slipping off the swim platform after dark, while docked once or twice. The person/persons who knew of this situation should be fired and yes the marina should be sued. A swimmer, a kayaker, a boater working lines or retrieving an object, just a matter of time. Yes Lisa, damn those greedy parents but hope that shoe is never on your foot.
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The shoe has been on my foot. If the incident occurred because someone slipped and fell my position might be different. But to me it is inherently wrong to try and profit off the death of a child or anyone for that matter.
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Permalink Reply by AQUAMAN on
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Lisa, given the circumstances as we know them secondhand, what price do you put on a human life? I know New Yorkers are hard nosed individuals, but this is ridiculous on your part imho. Sorry, but accidents like this should have been avoided at any monetary cost to the municipality responsible. They simply dropped the ball, and a loss of life is the result, plain and simple from where I stand. There is "no profit" for grieving parents of a youth like this, only loss that no price can repay. God's speed to the family.
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I do not put a price on human life, no amount of money can replace the loss of a child or loved one, nor does it ease the pain of the loss. I may work in New York but I am from Michigan - my family is from Mason county and I do still own a house in Mason County.
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Lisa, when anyone says the "parents are trying to profit from their child's death", just whom do you think you're fooling about priorities of money and life? Sorry, but Methinks your NY influence of living and working there for years has changed your Michigan upbringing, and not for the better.
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Aquaman,
I'm not trying to fool anyone. Methinks your opinion of my NY influence is totally irrelevant. At no point during any given day do I care what you think of me or NY.
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Permalink Reply by Marty Redman on
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They should shut that marina down for the rest of the year and fix the problem. It should be combed over by state police first. There is no adequate repayment for the loss of a life, but what do you do, have someone else get electrocuted? That's what happens when theres no repercussions. Killing becomes OK.
I do agree with XLFD, put this marina into responsible private hands and if the city wants to do something, have their DPW come in and check it routinely for problems, and collect the marina's taxes. Every municipal marina I have seen are drowning in bureaucracy and ennui.
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Marty,
I agree with your solution, I also think that those who knew of the danger need to be fired. Suing the city will only have the trickle down effect of the citizens having to pay more in taxes for a situation they had no control over.
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You mean like the Jack Byers case here in Ludington recently Lisa? Irresponsible elected officials exist it too many places already, it's up to the citizenry to remove and make recalls when this situation plainly exists and continues, it's the few remaining controls that is left for us. No matter what is settled for monetarily, no one can bring that young man's life back, and the parents have to live with this horror for the rest of their lives. All the money in the world can't change that!
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Permalink Reply by XLFD on
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I found a story on the original electrocution/drowning from 9 & 10 News.
The City pretty much admits there was a short in the system two days later, and the prelim. autopsy showed that electrocution contributed to the death.
The shock caused by the electrocution apparently caused the drowning. Clinch Marina had prior knowledge of electro-charged water caused by their not paying due attention to electricity-mixing-with-water safety issues, but it is a government entity and its management is probably as steeped in corruption as ours here in Ludington is.
The City is going to have to pay a bunch, and if they are smart, they will sell the marina to a private concern to help pay it. There is no need for publicly-owned marinas, in fact, their existence promotes unfair competition with private marinas as they can get special grants that the private ones can't get. Check out the $420,000 our City Marina got for those unused transient docks Mayor Henderson dreamed up. That's your money filtered from the state coffers, so you pay even if you don't own a boat.
And I am not saying that to curry favor with the Aquaman, LOL.
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Simply Shocking news, and totally uncalled for by a public entity that knew all too well the dangers associated with an electrical leak/malfunction in the marina. This is called "negligent homicide" in legal terms. Yes, swimming is not allowed at most marinas due to the inherent dangers of transient boaters accidentally running over divers/swimmers hard to see and also in harm's way of docking. That is NO EXCUSE for the city intentionally not curing the problem, so this type of event could be avoided. Any innocent victim could just as easily have fallen off a dock tripping/staggering/or any other misfortune. Attorney Fieger has a long record of helping the underdog/poor/misunderstood victims of life and fighting the immoral legal system. This case will surely be a no-brainer for any jury, and the victim's parents will get heavy damages, as well they should. Simply posting a "no swimming" sign, does not legally cancel any entity, business, person, nor municipality, of their legal responsibilities to the public at large. Their insurance for such matters will surely cover such an accident, just a matter of what their limits of liability are. Bottom line is did the city learn their lesson and make necessary corrections for the future, or are they waiting for this case to be heard, and for others to follow in such accidents? Sad loss of life any way you look at it though.
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