GOP To "Rig" Elections By Requiring A Proper I.D. To Vote According To DNC Chairwoman

[Dave]

To say Debbie is a bit goofy is a bit of an understatement. She's one that mentioned we should all buy American auto's yet she owns a foreign vehicle awhile back. The way I see it, if a person really wants to vote, they will do whatever they need to to make sure that they can. There are plenty of community organizations that will help people with getting to and from voting locations as well as helping them get ID's if that is what is needed. For her to call the requirement for an ID cheating is just plain silly.

DNC Chairwoman Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (FL) says the Republican party is trying to disenfranchise and "suppress" the votes of minorities and other groups in the Democratic voting bloc by enacting laws requiring a valid I.D. at polls.

"It's very transparent who they're trying to block from the polls and who they're trying to block from the polls and who they want to smooth the path for," Wasserman Schultz said in an interview with MSNBC's Martin Bashir.

State Republican legislatures are passing bills that require a valid I.D. in order to vote to prevent voter fraud. However, Wasserman Schultz denies that charge, saying fraud is "simply a problem that doesn't exist."

The DNC Chairwoman accused the Republican party of not being able to "win elections on the merits," so they have to cheat.

"They know they can't win elections on the merits, so they're trying to rig elections by blocking people's access to the polls," Wasserman Schultz charged.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/12/01/wasserman_schultz...

[snide]

If that is true(that ID's ARE provided for free), it gets at the crux of my argument. But I had phoned the Sec of State and was told the cost for a non-DL ID was 9.50. No mention of an ID if you could not pay, but that does not mean it isn't available.......It is a far cry from what happens in England , where 1-2 weeks from an election, the government goes door-to door making sure people are registered to vote and know where the polling place is.......That , to me seems a bit extreme,but it beats here where people are discouraged from voting and proper voting rolls are not maintained.For example , the government here (even local) does not update ANY records for who dies. Even though the hospital(or coroner) files a Certificate of Death.....Just where does that go....? 

[Dave]

A little humor while on the subject of death and voting.....

How can you tell that Muammar Qaddafi and Bin Laden are dead?

They are registered to vote in Chicago!

[XLFD]

That's right, Snide, the state charges about $10 for an ID card, as shown here.  I think you have an excellent point about the SOS office being lax in their duties so as to reduce voter fraud, and that goes for most states. 

 Furthermore, linking the SOS with County and City Clerks and vital records keepers of all sorts, and having the ability to check this at all voting places, and put aside all questionable ballots for further verification is a better way to reduce such fraud, in my opinion. 

The relatively small amount of people that would need to fill out forms to waive the $10 fee for a free ID would be insignificant as an expense.  But again, I prefer an upgraded voter registration card as another method.

[Max]

Isn't is ironic that those who forced an individual mandate to buy health insurance on us are the same ones that say that providing an ID to vote is an unfair burden?  Hmmm...

[AQUAMAN]

Good irony Max, and right on point. It's called a "double standard" for the Dems.. Btw, only about 1/3 or 33% of the eligible voting public even votes anymore, so, in the end, it's more of a moot issue than not imho.

[Willy]

Good point Max. Funny story Dave.

[Marty Redman]

I do not agree at all with the individual mandates, but I can see X and snides points.  I would love to go thru life without any of these burdensome IDs that found there way into my wallet.  Each one linked to computers with all the stats and numbers on me.  To gain a privilege an ID is fine with me but to exert a right you shant need to purchase one.  To register to vote you don't need a picture ID, if I'm not mistaken.

[Max]

You shouldn't have to get a license or "permit" either to carry a gun, yet in many states you do.

[snide]

Very true , Max. According to the US Constitution with the whole "right to keep and bear arms" line you shouldn't. But I kind of see why , with the changing of the times. when our country was being settled the gun was a tool as much as a plow or saw. But times changed when the cartridge and repeating arms came into play. Nobody was trying to jack "ye olde taverne" with a musket,hence the changes......

[Willy]

The way I understand it is to register to vote you need to show a drivers license or a State ID. If you register to vote by mail then you must show up in person the first time you vote and you will be required to show your drivers license or State  ID. The only exception is if you are handicapped.

I would like to know from you folks who think obtaining an ID to vote and showing that ID when you vote is infringing on your rights, how exactly would you prevent 20 million illegals from voting? Or how you would prevent someone from voting 100 times by using aliases? I'm not claiming the voting procedure is  going to be perfect but requiring a photo ID is a start at cleaning up the process.

Marty

It's way to late to turn back the clock. Your information is out there and there is no going back. With all the computers that contain our personal information I think showing our ID when voting is a minor blip in the intrusion of our privacy. I personally hate having my personal information floating around in cyberspace and I don't like carrying or showing my ID but it's the world we all have created by demanding that we be allowed to purchase goods, products and real estate on credit and demand Government control over our lives from Social Security to grants, loans, ect.

[Dave]

The image below pretty much sums up why I am not opposed to the requirement for photo ID when voting...

One of the comments I hear by some that oppose this idea is that 'well, these people can't make it to the DMV (or where ever they may go to get registered to vote)', to me that is as much of a BS excuse as any. Are we to believe that a person can make it out to vote or to pick up a absentee ballot can't make it out to get an ID? If you can make it out to vote, you can make it to the DMV. And its not like this law is being put in place days or weeks before elections take place... most people have months if not a year to get it taken care of.

Sorry to keep bringing this thread back to life but this is one of the things I do feel a bit strongly about and I think its important.

[Willy]

Very good find Dave. I'm with you on this. You also need ID to enter and leave the country [unless your  illegals who are not obligated to do anything a US citizen is required to do but your entitled to all the benefits, even some not available to most citizens], to operate a vehicle and  most stores require an  ID when returning goods without a receipt.