ARE WE IN BIGGER TROUBLE NOW THAN EVER?

[AQUAMAN]

From the accounts on the Presidential election tonight it sounds like Obama got the nod? Does anyone else have confirmation of this breaking news after Midnight? If so, this betrays a lot of what Americans needed and desired for a change in course, and might just make things much worse in the horrific future. I can't say I can believe it's true, must be sleeping and dreaming nightmares, or am I?

[Bernard Tower]

Not  so hard to figure out.. the East and West Coast always vote Dem, the Midwest always votes Repub. Thats why elections are so close. (Wayne county.. exceptional intelligence)

[Guidothesemipsuedocaptitalistpig]

It is hard to win an election by a party who stressed Liberty, and self reliance, when 48% percent of electorate depends on a government provided check of one form or another.

The next question will be will OB turn even harder left as many in the conservative circles feared he would after the election. That will sort of tell us whether the doomsday believers ( and many Libertarians)  are correct in their fears of a forever changed ( French or Greek type Country) Are correct.

My only comments would be if anyone is here has visited France or Greece in their whole lifetime and thought it was a beautiful and cool place you would love to live in. Consider this, Everything in those two countries of beauty and value was created in a time long ago in their history. The wonders of the Earth they still celebrate as bringing them tourist dollars will never be created or repaired in there current economic decline. In current Europe they are scrambling to get the only country that still has wealth to cough it up to give more of it to the poor nations who are spending themselves into a oblivion.

And after all we have OB on the record talking to our old (friend) Russia consoling him that OB will have more ( flexibility) after the election. There is a UN bill America seems likely to sign, passing off our gun rights to a foreign entity go figure.

[AQUAMAN]

Thank you Guido and Willy too for such useful and poignant posts/links. All I can say further is that I feel ashamed to be an American today, and also hurt for a fellow Torcher that lost a daughter last night too, very hurt.

[Bernard Tower]

Guido, don't be so sad. I have been in France, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Libya, Morocco,Turkey, England, France, Norway, Sweden,Denmark, Belgum, Russia,China, India,and many other Asian countrys and Islands. Trust me! We live in the finest country on the face of the earth! Fear not that we will devolve into some desperate and desolate place just on the basis of one election...this country is better than that. Have faith and work toward a better, more prosperous country. We CAN do miracles...together.

[Bernard Tower]

Guido, I feel so sorry for you, living in some alternative reality this way...For goodness sake, get a grip and look around you. Do you see the beauty of the day? The majesty of the forested hills? Do you think France or Greece has a better....well I guess anywhere is better than Michigan in the winter..but otherwise appreciate what is in front of you and "Seize the day!" America existed when they had their best times, but they were better documented than our Indians were..still, go to the Yucatan and see what a splendid civilization which existed in America looked like.. it was impressive.

[Willy]

Guido

It sounds like Bernanrd wants you to be like that noble bird the ostrich and find a hole in which to insert your head so Obama can shove whatever he pleases into that portion of your anatomy that's above ground.

[Willy]

The elections over but this is still funny

[Bernard Tower]

Silly. Get over it. Move on and realize that the Republicans did it to themselves with rigid extreme pandering to the rich. It seems the middle class (What IS that anyway?) has spoken. If the Repubs ever want to win an election they will have to get rid of the Hokestras, and his type of radical extremeism. The women really got out and voted against any anti-abortion issues, the Young people felt more at home with a Democrat, and "Cancelling Obama care" made the older crowd nervous. Latinos fled the Republicans because they hate being ignored the way they were.  All in all, it's true; we get the government we deserve. (Happily, I am an independent, and feel free to talk this way)

[Dave]

And with all that said, this election was still a lot closer then it should of been if Obama had done a decent job. In '08 I think its fair to say that most everyone knew what the outcome of that election was going to be. People were tired of Bush/Republicans and Obama was easily elected. This time around, the only people sure of who might win were the campaigns.. most everyone else had their hopes for whoever they voted for to win. Democrats best hope that Obama has a good 2nd term or could see a bunch of big wins for the republicans in the midterms and in '16.

[Bernard Tower]

I agree..

[Lisa O'Brien]

Well from what I have been told  by my Latino friends, the reason they came out in numbers to vote Democratic was the speech Mitt gave on illegal aliens - and self deportation. The Latino community read into that as he was going to make it so tough on Latinos that they would leave voluntarily.

******Disclaimer this was based on a conversation between me and a friend - since I am not friends with the whole Latino community across the nation, I cannot verify if this is true*******

[Jane]

If I had not forgot about his guy I would have so wrote in  his name. watch the whole 5min video. REmember he is a friendly Fascist , a tyrant you can trust...watch the whole five min, it really is a New Hampshire Primary, and is VERY funny,,,enjoy some election humor.