XLFD, is he a LIAR, PERJURER or BOTH? YOU DECIDE.

[Melinda]

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• Posted by Ronald on February 23, 2015 at 5:43pm in Torch Light
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X, as long as I’ve been here and watched you call Shay a “perjurer” without a flinch, I’ve never delved into you being one too. (That was your business) You committed perjury when you listed your voting address at your parent’s house, while actually living on Dowland. Those papers are signed under penalty of perjury. You stated on here that you never physically lived there, but to register to vote in that precinct YOU MUST RESIDE THERE stated Under penalty of perjury. The city must not have caught it and I didn’t say anything because it was YOUR business. Statute of limitations should have passed by now. If I was part of the City or County as I have been accused of by Aqueerman, I surely would have contacted Spanolia to review this long ago.
Did you ever vote in the wrong precinct? That’s a crime too.

 

FEBRUARY 2015 - HERE XLFD IS ADAMANT HE LIVED AT HIS PARENTS ON PINE STREET

 

Reply by XLFD 2 hours ago

Still you claimed "You committed perjury when you listed your voting address at your parent’s house, while actually living on Dowland. Those papers are signed under penalty of perjury." 

I considered my only 'static' residence to be at my parent's address, I would go there daily.  The Dowland address was my work address where I managed the six apartments and yet spent the majority of my time.  There was no willful deceit on my part, and no reason why I would even care at that time about which ward I was part of.  I considered that my only truly fixed address.

Reply by XLFD 3 hours ago

There is no flinch in calling John Shay a perjuror, because he is.  He swore in a court affidavit under penalty of perjury that the eleven records he gave to me in response to my FOIA lawsuit were the records I had sought in my FOIA lawsuit, knowing full well that many of them were not compliant (the extraneous records were to assist his legal defense), and full well that many that were compliant were left out-- almost twenty records with his signature on them and well known to him according to DDA records showing him at the meetings these things were decided. 

As for what you wish to claim is my perjury, I will tell you what I've said before, I registered in 1998 to vote; at that time, and even now for most intents and purposes, my mailing address and the address on my driver's license was my parent's address in the sixth ward.  Michigan law states that the same address must be used for voter registration and driver's license purpose. 

So even if I wanted to register at the Dowland residence, which was used for apartments then, and more importantly where I had no actual 'apartment' at the time I initially registered, and several times thereafter, I would have had a conundrum, and would have been lying if I had said I was living at Dowland, even though I mostly slept there each night. 

BACK IN FEBRUARY/MARCH 2012 HE IS ADAMANT HE LIVED ON HIS DOWLAND STREET ADDRESS, SAME VOTER REGISTRATION ISSUE/DIFF ADDRESS

Permalink Reply by XLFD on February 29, 2012 at 1:28pm

Larry, please show me any document that I have posted that said I live in the Sixth Ward.  For someone who said in another thread that: 

"If my child were a minor and did something in school that is determined to be legal then you have no right to dig your little claws into our lives"
"if it were one of my children, I would be very concerned if XLFD or his assistant were using FOIA's to dig into my family's personal concerns."
"If that were my child I might become personally concerned about you and your assistant trying to dig into my child's behavior."
"I would become personally concerned about you or your assistant trying to dig into one of my child's behavior. I think you would too if it were your child."
"I would be very concerned as a parent of that student if XLFD or his assistant were trying to dig too deep in my child's behavior or our family's private affairs"

 

And asked inquisitively in that same thread about whether I had been a teacher or was still teaching, you are beginning to seriously creep me out, and not just with your inconsistency. 

 

Reply by XLFD on March 3, 2012 at 10:52pm

That address is not my residence; more of a past (and sometimes present) mailing address that the county must have had on file.  I had sent PA Spaniola an E-mail, and the PA doesn't like that form of communication, and sent me a letter to where I used to be registered.  I had to re-register at the place I have physically lived at this whole millenium, 137 E Dowland Street, to be a candidate in the Third Ward. 

Kudos to you, Dale, for finding the document Larry spoke of in the archives.  It does make him a little less creepy.  But also just remember that a mailing address can differ from a street address.  I had my mail delivered to and originally registered at the Pine address, when there had been some problems with lost and misdirected mail at Dowland.

 

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Permalink Reply by XLFD on March 3, 2012 at 11:47pm

RobbyK, Dale, and your brother Larry,

I appreciate your due diligence in coming on here and being concerned about my registration, but not about the disenfranchisement performed by the City leaders.  Great priorities you have. 

The fact is that I have lived physically at my current Dowland address since 1994, initially registered at my mailing address in Ludington town in 1998 and changed that at the beginning of 2011 to make sure I qualified for the office of Third Ward Councilor.  The City of Ludington and most members of the LFD can vouch for me that the Dowland Street address has been my physical and primary mailing address since 2001. 

I must submit that three members of the City Council, the City Manager, City Clerk, and Mayor all interviewed me for the Third Ward Councilor seat in April 2011.  Councilor Castonia was the first, and none too politely, to point out my registration address was in error, a fact I corrected after the meeting, but amazingly I still didn't get the job, LOL.

Permalink Reply by XLFD on March 4, 2012 at 10:46pm

Dale,

How many times do I have to tell you.  That was not and never has been my residence, it has been a mailing address.  The letter of trespass and the WSP never says I have the right to petition John Shay for entrance.  I have done it in the past, but it has been ignored the last three or four times.  I take that as him denying that right. 

And why would anyone need permission to get John Shay's permission to enter the City Hall to vote?  Bring up a valid point, please.

 

SO which one is it? “I considered my only 'static' residence to be at my parent's address”                        OR

“The fact is that I have lived physically at my current Dowland address since 1994" ???? 

I can provide the rest of the permalinks if you like. Interesting how you can file legal papers all the way up to the Michigan Court of Appeals but are incapable of filling out the Michigan Voters Registration Card properly.

[Guidothesemipsuedocaptitalistpig]

I just thought of another relevant example of voting using a parents address. In the whole 15 years I was in the U.S. Army I was instructed to vote using my parents address as I was out of county. I did in fact, receive literature via my mother on local races as well. My home of record had not been my residence address in years.

[Willy]

Hey Guido how have you been? That's a very good point regarding military personnel. 

[Guidothesemipsuedocaptitalistpig]

Hey Willy!! thanks, Not bad here. But I do miss Michigan.. except for the narrow thinking trolls on occasion.

[XLFD]

Truth to tell, I did favor my Dowland address starting in 2001 because of its close proximity to the fire department and my membership therein for the next eight years.  From what I've seen about state election law, voting from a place other than your 'domicile' is typically only a problem when you're in a completely different jurisdiction.  Both my places, neither of which I own myself, are in the City of Ludington.

It gives me a better chance of avoiding the local stormtroopers if and when they decide to mobilize against the city insurgents.

[Melinda]

Well, Guido, I never thought of that. Makes sense.

[Melinda]

NOT! 15 years huh? With 15 years in one would think you would know there’s actually a separate voters rights acts, JUST FOR MILITARY and overseas people. COPMPLETELY IRRELEVANT.  Both Federal and State, lol what a waste of 15 years. Maybe it’s for ALL the homeless Active Service Members? LOL!! They actually paid you? You’re comparing a guy who may have lived under a bridge (for all we know) to military personnel? To begin with, military personnel are afforded those rights because they’re serving their country. In ALL your 15 years did you realize the majority lived on post, where there was no local govt.?  Did you realize they PCS quite frequently? Did you realize they even PCS to different countries? All members are allowed to keep their State residences and State voting rights. They do this through absentee ballots, but back to their residence, some members who join from mommy’s house and others who actually use their own house address. This absentee ballot goes to the very same locality they joined from. Hell, they even allow state drivers licenses that have expired to remain intact if shown with the military ID. If they move off-post and actually change their residence there they then have to vote there, and change their State residence BUT cannot vote in both states. Nowhere does it allow a person to switch it from locality to locality just because they want to.

Most people who OWN a home or more than one home, have to vote where their homesteaded, IE where their house gets a property tax exemption. Most people who don’t own a house pay rent and claim a property tax credit, making this their residence. Others who live under bridges or leach(don’t pay nothing and don’t qualify for a tax credit) off others need to use the nearest cross roads if they don’t have an address. Which is most likely the case here. Maybe X wasn't smart enough to read the cross roads.

People who just want to change their mailing address, simply go to the Post Office. Theres no need to change a drivers license or voters card. People go to Florida i the winter, change their mailing address but their residence stays here. Completely legal.

[Willy]

Melinda, [yawn] your back. Your like the pet monkey that pulls on it's masters pant leg trying to get attention. "Look, look, see me, I'm down here". What a cute monkey.

[XLFD]

The web camera caught a picture of Melinda the last time she was on.  That's a rather unique talent she has going there.

[Melinda]

Wow!! Woot Woot! And a picture of XLFD's tongue at lightening speed! That's why you couldn't take it yourself. Weird that its not forked.

[Willy]

After seeing that picture I am forced to retract my statement. She's not a "cute" monkey. She's ugly. Actually, the fart's prettier. Maybe a little lipstick on both ends would make an improvement. Nah. A monkey's butthole is what it is. I wouldn't watch this video to long Melinda because it's really a hypnotic inducer for trolls. your getting sleeeeeepy.

[XLFD]

Willy, how many times do I have to warn you about your careless use of pronouns?  Any monkey that can do what this one does is not going to be easily described with 'he' or 'she', and definitely is going to be able to use either dressing rooms at the local "Planet Fitness".

[Melinda]

XLFD seems to be enjoying the butthole end as you enjoyed your Aunts. Get your counseling, it will help. You seem to have gotten sleepy with X last nite. Heres the two of you after doing your monkey-licking. Its really interesting that the site admin would be posting from "pixelfucks.com", which is shown at the bottom of his picture, which has been forwarded to NING.

He ONLY changed his mind on his address AFTER it was pointed out he might be a perjurer. Its obvious hes a liar. You guys are no different than your perceived "Shay" supporters. You turn a blind eye to the truth because hes your IDOL. No difference. The TORCH is a parallel to the CITY. Starting with both leaders being possible liars/perjurers, to Shays WPS/XLFD banning people. Minions following and minions following. The comparisons are uncanny. Yet you still have no real answer why it was so important that he "undeniably" lived on Dowland and NEVER lived at his parents in 2012. He even went as far as stating "please show me any document that I have posted that said I live in the Sixth Ward." Well its been shown, 3 years later and only after perjury was brought up. Then in 2015 when perjury was mentioned, hes all over the place, including the SIXTH WARD. These are XLFD's statements, you guys can attack all you want. It doesn't change the facts vs discrepancies and only shows how "alike" you are to Shay supporters. How "alike" XLFD is to Shay. To what EXTENT you will go to to shut someone up. JUST LIKE THE CITY. Sounds VERY familiar. I recommend a name change to LUDINGTON TORCH/IDENTICAL TWIN OF LUDINGTON CITY-PARALLEL UNIVERSES. You should all be ashamed of yourselves, because you're EXACTLY what you're fighting against. The only reason AQ has never attacked you, Willy, when you've been in dissent, is because you donate/pay to be here. Just like businesses, yup its noticeable how "nice" they are to you. Someone gripes about a tracer, he gets assaulted by Aq, 15 minutes later, Willy gripes about it and its gone immediately.