Wind Power. Is it a good investment?

[Bernard Tower]

At the request of XLFD. I would proffer the attached as proof that a 35% ROI is a typical ROI for wind turbines.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlAib32buQo

[CLFD]

The nuclear option is one that can kill a lot of people if something goes critically wrong. No research is necessary because everybody knows this is true. Very unlikely that something will go wrong, just as it is very unlikely that a blade from a wind tower will ever fly off and pierce one of the sour gas lines. But if its a good enough argument against the wind towers then it is by far a much more serious argument against the nuclear option.

 

There will be those that scoff at the danger of a nuclear power plant. I will not interfere with those who scoff because I am still waiting for answers to my questions to Willy.

[CLFD]

LOL! I am imagining all the land owners living in the midst of and around the wind towers would be jumping for joy if they could trade all those 500 foot tall spinning monstrosities for one little itty bitty nuclear power plant in that same area of southern Mason County.

 

LOL

[Willy]

My apologies CLFD. I took the old hard drive to a computer geek who pronounced it DOA. I lost a lot more than the wind turbine info. Family photos that go way back, tax records, ect. I'm trying to remember where I got a lot of the info. but finding it is another thing. Just before it crashed I was looking into "Carbonite" but held off a little to long. I should be in one of their commercials for the dodo's that procrastinate to the point of losing all of their information before they back it up. Lesson learned.

[Guidothesemipsuedocaptitalistpig]

Willy send the carcass of a hard drive to me. I will bury it after pulling all of your wonderful photos and other assorted things off of it for you. If you would like me to send me a message and I will send you my snail mail address. I can offer you a better than 60% chance of recovering quite a bit.

[Willy]

Thanks for the offer Guido but the funeral and burial have already taken place. 

[CLFD]

Sorry to hear you have buried your hard drive. My conscience would never allow me to throw all my data away. Even if the hard drive was inaccesessable to you right now, I am thinking that eventually you would have run into somebody who could have extracted most of that data from your hard drive.  Especially the priceless photos.

I guess my questions will never be answered on this forum.

 

Thank you.

[Willy]

CLFD

The tech tried everything but nothing worked. He is a private computer consultant and does work for large corporations and Government facilities. He really knows his stuff so if he says the info was not retrievable then I have to believe him. He's even, what is called, a "forensic specialist", whatever that is. 

[Jane]

I know a computer business who can get a hard drive to be copied as long as it will spin. the drive may be doa as far as usability but it can be "ghosted" or rather generally speaking a photocopy made. I have had this done many times on crashed drives, as long as it powers up they can retrieve the info.

[Guidothesemipsuedocaptitalistpig]

I told him that also Jane. I think he has a friend who actually does forensic work so I take it on fact he would know the difference.

[Bernard Tower]

And that is a most sensible approach. Strip away the political commentary and you have a good plan there. You also seem to realize it will take cooperation and a mix of oil-gas-coal-Nuclear to make all that work.

What are "Enviro-nuts" People who disagree with you? One of the concerns that I hear is the waste disposal problem..and the Quality control..San Onofrie (just outside San Diego) has had both reactors shut down for more than a year now due to cracks in the tubing that was purchased in Japan for use in normal maintaince, and installed without inspections and/or further testing. When it began leaking, the NRC shut the plant down until the tubing can be redone..more than a year of loss. When I worked for Admiral Rickover on the Naval Nuclear propulsion program, EVERYTHING was triple checked. I used to fish in the Susquehanna below the dam..didn't worry, because they always blew the sirens before they dumped water from the dam. Lived in Cockysville in those days..Hope Sandra didn't do you or yours any harm.

Incidentally, the nuclear storage facility in Nevada has been completed and ready for use for three years now, but the residents don't want it in THIER back yard, even tho Nevada has one of the higest unemployment rates in the country, and that facility would provide a couple thousand new jobs. Ah well.. NIMBY lives on! You are probably right in believing that Sen Reid wants to keep his job, and is listening to his constituents.

[AQUAMAN]

I wouldn't scoff at anyone who sees some potential danger in any of these types of power producing facilities. It's part of the take and give in almost any situation, there are pros and cons to anything in life. We all want to be safe, and need affordable and reliable energy sources all our lives. The "enviro-nuts", coined by Rush on his program, and many others now, points at how some in this country want "green energy" type programs to prosper and thrive, even if it means infringement of private property rights, programs that are failures, programs that need subsidies from government, programs that devalue property and human rights, and all too many that are "pie in the sky ideas" that simply don't work. The worst part of the "enviro-nut" is that all too many of these people will go to any lengths to get their point across, i.e., marching, riots, violence, property vandalisms, groups like PETA, and personal attacks to the point of injuries and deaths. This is the "nut" portion being referred to, it's not in line with getting your ideas and wants in this society, it's unlawful acts that get too much attention, and innocent people can get hurt in this process.

[Bernard Tower]

Aquaman..do you know the names of the Mayors of Ludington between 1930 and 1940? I am curious because it may turn out we are related..hee hee wouldn't that be something!?