Outrageous

[Willy]

I can't even describe how angry I am at Obama's regime and the Democrats. Everyone of them should be thrown out of office. What a slam and insult to the American people. Inviting the President of Mexico to come here and lecture us on the illegals. I have never witnessed such a display of arrogance and contempt for our country as displayed by Obama and Congress.

 

 

[masonco]

Disarm you said:
On the other hand, I have not complained about illegals taking up money that you apparently think should go to you.

That was another false accusation made by you. The truth is I stated FACTS only and again you twisted the facts into an outright lie.

Most of the other (American) patients who skipped out were taken to court and sued for the money! Once a lien is placed on a person, they even get their social security checks garnished as is happening with my ex.

Actually I do not know of any legal American citizens who lived in a private room with a private 1:1 nurse for 18 months of hospital stay.

I guess you were unable to read or comprehend the last half of the last paragraph of my previous post which clarified your accusation. You would never have made such a statement as you did if you had. Only illegal illegal abandoned aliens are give such VIP hospital care for free for 18 months because their home country (Mexico) refused to take them back.

[Max]

Disarm, I don't understand why you are taking such issue with masonco. The premise of this thread, as I understand it, is Mexico's president and Obama's criticism of the Arizona law and Mexican illegals. Masonco's points do appear -- at least to me -- germane to this discussion.

[XLFD]

I got to agree with you Max. I do think Disarm is reading a little bit too much into what Masonco is actually saying. Keep it cordial and on point, you two. You both have interesting viewpoints.

[Sweater Cows!]

There are just as many other breeds who do the same as what mason co is talking about. Welfare and disability are scammed as much by whites and blacks as they are by mexicans.

I had a white girl tell me to say that kids dad didn't live with us(HE LIVES HERE) and make fake receipts saying he paid child support (so he wouldn't get it ordered to him by dhs) and then I would not have to claim his income with mine so i could get food stamps, medicaid etc.. for me & the kid.

Umm..NO! not happening, although she had no problem with welfare fraud I do and do not want to be one of those ppl.

[Sweater Cows!]

ya ever notice the only time this forum (or any) gets long threads is when ppl are vehemently arguing. LOL

[XLFD]

I could argue with that observation by using a counterexample or two... but then I would just be proving your point when you and others disagree. LOL
Forums do usually tend to lack energy when everyone agrees with everyone else.

[Dave]

I'm going to throw this in in regards to the illegals/health care portion of this debate. As a whole, the percentage of people not paying for health care that are illegal aliens (from all lands outside our borders), might be a small percentage. That percentage though may be quite a bit higher in border states, specially those along the southern border but not excluding certain border crossings on the north side. It should be fair to say that their are more people crossing the border on the southern side then the north... I mean how many times have you heard of Canadians coming to America to find work, crossing illegally? Not to much if at all.

[XLFD]

Didn't you hear about the protests taking place in Ishpeming after the AZ bill was passed. Backed up traffic all the way back to Negaunee. A bunch of incredibly polite white people waving red-and-white flags with maple leafs thereon and wearing tooks and punctuating their sentences with "ay" were upset over this law. They took a day off of trapping, mining and wood-cutting to show their disapproval, and yet where was the national media on this one?

[Dave]

They took the day off eh

[XLFD]

Yah, they like took the day off and behaved like a bunch of hosers.
They were already upset about not having any Canadian teams in the Stanley Cup Finals once again.

[Dave]

Those hosers don't deserve a playoff team eh :-P