Terrible shooting

[Guidothesemipsuedocaptitalistpig]

I just stepped away from the TV after listening to as much as I could abut a terrible shooting (many kindergarteners shot. My first thoughts were of how twisted our society has become to the value of human life.

 I am sure by the time I come back from driving my school students home, someone in the media will have renewed the mantra of some form of weapons ban.

In this particular case. It sounds as if someone opened the door and let evil walk in unabated.

[Jane]

Where were the hero's? the adults who should have engaged this guy at the risk of their own life and took him out(oh right no ccw in schools) but where were the hero adults who would have tackled this guy to save the kids.

[XLFD]

Good people without guns almost always lose to evil people with guns.  Everytime you disarm the good and lawful, the evil and chaotic grow stronger.

[Lisa O'Brien]

Amen to that.

[Brian Carlson]

From what I have heard so far is that this guy had two handguns. The gun control people wanted to go after the "assault" weapons and the guns with a magazine that could hold more than 30 rounds. Now they will be after all guns. No matter how a person feels about guns, Obama should have left the guns alone and stuck to a tribute of the adults and children who lost their lives. He can fight the gun battle another day.

[AQUAMAN]

Well said Brian, I agree. But, it's not in Obama's character to do the right thing when a situation like this presents itself to him, his advisers aren't that smart nor geared for tributes, just chaos and controversy as per the usual, for a divisive society, and that just puts salt on the wound.

[Chuck Finley]

Bad guys will always have guns. I doubt that the sign that states the school is a gun free zone really had an effect on his thoughts and actions.

[Lisa O'Brien]

I say leave the guns alone, lets just mandate that everyone take HAPPY pills.

[Guidothesemipsuedocaptitalistpig]

Here in PA where I live, the doors to the schools are locked and you have to buzz an office person who is supposed to physically look at a camera pointed at the door to see who you are and what you have with you upon entering the building. The same people are supposed to monitor the entry when the doors are open at the beginning and end of the day while students are entering for the same reason. I thought this was standard procedure in all the schools at this point in time?

Granted.. at this early point in the investigation the principle was one of those killed so maybe he was in fact monitoring this and could not intercede in time. an armed guard may have been able to.. But I am told schools are to be weapons free zones... who does that help? Surly not the innocents.

[Willy]

My understanding is that the school had the same system that you describe. Since the shooters mother was a teacher at the school he was not recognized as a threat and was let in. The first thing he did was go to the principles office and shoot her while she was on the intercom system addressing the student body. I understand he had mental problems.

[Progressive Tiger]

As a former mental health professional I wish people would focus more on mental health issues than guns. The vast majority of gun owners obtain then legally and use them responsibly. It is a smaller subset of people with guns who commit mass shootings, often because they are depressed or psychotic. I don't agree with my more rabid progressive brethren that gun control is the solution. A crazy person determined to kill you will use a brick if that's what is immediately available. 

But, this raises the question of who would pay for mental health services. Would this be another example of "takers" stealing from the "makers?" 

I'm also troubled by the image of a cop in every school, metal detectors at every entrance and every other knee jerk reaction to shooting tragedies that would turn schools and other public places into fortresses. 

[AQUAMAN]

Willy, you just said the magic words here, mental problems. This country and it's citizens no longer want to effectively deal with mentally disturbed people like we did years ago. To me, it's a cinch to see that most if not all of these types of senseless incidents are a result of mentally disturbed people, and/or just evil people. These are people that obviously need institutionalization in mental hospitals, yet, we have none anymore. Many homeless people prefer to be in the streets, look at the man that had boots given to him by the PD officer, then was barefoot again a couple of days later. The progressive liberals would have us believe that putting these people away is too harsh and mental wards and conditions there are not feely good enough anymore. That's BS, and what is directly contributing to these tragedies imo. How much longer and how many more tragedies do we have to witness before we recognize the core of the problem and deal with it like a civilized society. The past is past, we can do better in this day and age I say.

[Progressive Tiger]

Aquaman, when the beer truck makes its next delivery to your house I want you to tell the driver to only unload 3.2 beer. Your head is fogged.

The progressive liberals would have us believe that putting these people away is too harsh and mental wards and conditions there are not feely good enough anymore.

Progressive liberals were the ones pushing legislation to end "warehousing" of the mentally ill in hospitals and other institutions which resulted in crazy people being dumped onto the street and becoming homeless people. Conservatives, on the other hand, felt that funding mental health institutions was not a good use of tax dollars. There is plenty of blame to go around when looking at how we have failed to effectively deal with mental health in this country.