Ludington City Government: They See You Poo in Public

[XLFD]

I found a whole lot of surveillance cameras this last week in Ludington public restrooms, fourteen total, twelve hidden.  I would not be surprised if there were more.

 

I went to the Ludington City Hall tonight, August 26, 2013, looking to get the City Hall to quit breaking the law and invading the privacy of our guests and citizens in illegal and illicit public bathroom surveillance.  For having such a quaint notion, I was upbraided by several Ludington public officials, beginning with ZBA/Board of Review member Wallace Cain, continuing with Mayor John Henderson, City Manager John Shay, City Attorney Richard Wilson, and ending with a see/hear/say-no-evil bit by Police Captain Mike Harrie, sitting in for Police Chief Mark Barnett, who was home "watching the movies", if you know what I mean.  The whole amoral bunch will have their ridiculous comments ridiculed when the video from this meeting becomes available (except for Harrie's, whose comments came after the meeting).  Here was the public comment I gave, complete with pictures, and links that are only available here.

 

"Tom Rotta reclining at 137 E Dowland Street. 

 

Tonight I want to discuss criminal law and its implications as regards the continued illegal surveillance of our citizens and our guests in areas where they deserve to have their privacy respected.  It also ties in with my FOIA appeal, which due to an unwritten change of policy in these proceedings, I have not been able to give my side of the appeal at the last few meetings where I have appealed to this body for justice under state FOIA law. 

I humbly ask the city council to re-establish the right to state my case for appeal in FOIA matters, since the City has seemingly proven time and again that they have no interest in transparency by violating the Open Meetings Act and FOIA at will.

 

In the Michigan Penal Code, section 750.539(J) it says:    "A person shall not... Surveil, Photograph, or otherwise capture or record another individual... under circumstances in which the individual would have a reasonable expectation of privacy."   As far as definitions, 'person' can refer to a body corporate, such as the City of Ludington, and "reasonable expectation of privacy" has historically covered bathrooms, even public bathrooms.  When one steps up to a urinal, or one sits on a toilet, he expects to do so with privacy, and should not be able to look up and see a recording camera pointed at his private parts.   This is a felony violation.

 

And this is what happens at the Waterfront Park's men's room.  I set up a ladder and took a picture with my camera placed in front of their illegal surveillance lens and at the same angle and I took this still picture."

"As you can see the toilet and urinal fixtures are plainly visible, as is much of the common areas.  From this angle, the City Government knowingly videotapes a profile of you at the urinal where they can see your 'Johnson'.  Notice you can clearly see the handicap assistance bar around the toilet; that is the same height as most men's private parts. 

But this one camera is not the only illegal camera in the men's room there."

 

"You will notice a vent right above the men's stall where it looks as though a little damage has happened to one of the vertical slats.  A zoom into that particular vent reveals:"

 

[Another view here] "A camera pointing down, discretely recording more bathroom activity.  It is hard to determine where exactly this camera is pointing but its purpose appears to be to record activity where men expect privacy.   But women at the Waterfront Park have 'eyes in the sky too.  They not only have the obvious camera pointing mainly at common areas, they also have a "duct" camera."

 

 

"Here is a faraway shot showing another busted slat in the ventilation."

 

 

"And here is a zoomed shot of the hidden camera in the woman' restroom.  What is the purpose of this hidden camera in the women's restroom pointed down over the stalls?  I can only guess at lewd and lascivious purposes.  But let's take a look at other public restrooms maintained by our City Hall.  Here's the men's room at the North James Plaza:"

 

 

"The break in the ventilation screen is less noticeable, but the camera is obviously there."

 

 

"Once you zoom into the bottom left side, a closer look sees that this hidden camera goes back to the City's locked maintenance room.  The women's side appears to have the same type of well-hidden camera in their duct.

But one could claim that these were put there long ago, by some unknown pervert that once worked for the City.  When we take a look at the new $100,000 men's and women's restrooms in Stearn's north bathrooms, however, we find that someone has put covert cameras in to look at you in your most private moments."

 

 

When you sit down at the first men's stall, you look up and see a hard-wired smoke detector, but this in itself is odd since the original blueprints for this bathroom has the smoke detector's above the stall, and the electrical floor plan...

 

 

"... created for this renovation shows no connection for a hard-wired 'anything' in that area.  But when we take a zoom into this "smoke detector..."

 

 

"... you see some camera lenses pointed at you and your crotch.  You then go to the second stall:"

 

 

"And again see the 'smoke detector'.  But guess what?  It sees you too!"

 

"What an infringement of your privacy!  But seriously, could the City spend money on such things as smoke detector cameras?  Yup, as seen by this receipt here."

 

 

"The first item is a color smoke detector camera purchased in 2000.  And how did I get this document?  A FOIA request for the invoices of the purchase of the Waterfront Park security cameras.  Not too surprisingly, the hidden ventilation cameras were not part of the invoice.  [My time was up at this point, I continue with my prepared statement.] DPW Director and Ludington School Board member Shawn McDonald was the contact for these purchases.

The women's bathroom at Stearn's Park also has a smoke detector camera able to look at each of the stalls there.  Remember, the renovation was done earlier this summer."

 

"This is the first stall's close-up view."

"This is the second stall's close-up view."

 

"And this is the third.  All shots were taken while sitting on the toilets.  Whenever you sit in this restroom, you and your privacy is invaded by one or more people at City Hall, with approval from the highest authority.  And is there a public interest in this privacy invasion?  I'd like to hear it, and I invite the police chief to come with me after the meeting to further look at these cameras and discuss the implications of their placement."

For more photos and analysis (added 8-29 at 7:17 PM):  supplementary-photo-pack-ludington-sees-you-poo-in-public

For an explanation of what those odd devices in Stearn's Park really are, check this out (added 8-30-2013 at 7:45 PM):  some-relief-for-the-understandably-paranoid-folks-in-ludington

[AQUAMAN]

Egocentrics Willy? Naw, you know that Shay and Henderson aren't that way, they just act that way to appear crafty and foxy to the outsiders. When in fact they are arrogant turds on the way to more legal problems than they can ever imagine. I hope the guy posting the signs outside the bathrooms gets arrested for it too, then the "National Media" can pick up the marbles on this caper, and get the hot water boiling for a special political ousting of the criminals holding office around Ludville, both elected and appointed.

[wayne]

What has the Sheriff said about this & is he prepared to make arrests?

[XLFD]

He's always welcome to weigh in on this.  But I have no confidence in Sheriff Cole's objectivity when it comes to public officials doing bad things.  I wish he would prove me wrong, but history has shown otherwise.

[wayne]

Well lets see....  Cole didn't know about this for the last how many years?   It is unreasonable to believe a sheriff doesn't know about the surveillance activities in a town like Ludington.   FOIA  Sheriff   FOIA  County 

[Dave]

I'm sure others have caught this too but I love that the city has somewhat proven X's point... when they say that they would have to review tapes to make sure that there isn't anything inappropriate on them, that's exactly what I think X is talking about.... that there are people out there that have no idea they are being recorded when they go inside the bathrooms and decide to change clothing or adjust undergarments by brief removal of shirts/pants while in the common area of any given bathroom.

[wayne]

It is illegal to go outside.  Put it in perspective.  People have to go, & now you are being surveilled doing so.  This is theft & an attack on your liberty.  Pretty straightforward.  

[XLFD]

Good point, Wayne.  People seek out public bathrooms to do all sorts of private things that they could be arrested for if they did them out in public.  So now several officials are going on record and saying that you don't need to use the bathrooms if you are averse to giving up your basic Fourth Amendment rights.  These are the same group of people who would deny me my First Amendment rights to attend open meetings because I pointed out their ethical shortcomings here on the Ludington Torch, and as I have said, violate both the OMA and FOIA without any moral reservations about doing so.

[wayne]

That Guy,

Yeah, the old self-determination & responsibility for ones own actions thing.  Amazing how we keep coming back to that.   First of all, judging from the officials remarks so far, it appears we are all being abused by the officials.  Can you really trust people with a mentality like that husbanding the photographic or audio recordings of your activities?    What about tracking your daily movements?  

[AQUAMAN]

Good reply wayne, methinks you're on a roll on this thread, and for the betterment of this little berg on Lk. Michigan. The "mentality" of this administration, and some before, is that the laws can and should be  spin-interpreted, and to be an instrument to crucify and shame targeted locals into submission, because a larger fixed agenda by big-city inbreds that are in charge. Having said that, it appears now that the low scum will stoop to any means to achieve a larger agenda of discrediting anyone in their path that is patriotic and wanting fair play. This is the socialist agenda of making it appear like they can "never do anything wrong". The "mindset" obviously, is that some officials believe that they alone, are, "above the laws", because they alone, "are duty-bound to enforce the laws". This just doesn't ring true for the public, and never should be dismissed as a casual error!

[wayne]

Agreed, the opposite is true, this will be viewed as another episode of entertainment by so many.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IO4nCd20FDQ&feature=youtu.be

[Willy]

Well said Aquaman.

[Willy]

I was visiting the noisiest library on Earth [Ludington] when I had an urgent need to use the toilet room. As I was doing by daily Holeman the lights went out. As soon as I started to rise the lights came back on. I then noticed a contraption mounted on the ceiling that bore some resemblance to the infamous "detectors" at the beach facility. You might want to check it out X.